Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Suspension losses Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 07:45:59 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 63 Message-ID: References: <7ee2ojpq2b75m6gsd5svace02b19qassrk@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 13:46:02 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5a2ff025585790f1bde952fed98ca1ae"; logging-data="2549003"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+cuFIaG0CgocGmzJg/my2AoM0RUs3xdfI=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:AGOtq/b9ebXfxeymwzES+geqNmk= Bytes: 4139 On 14 Jan 2025 12:22:39 GMT, Roger Merriman wrote: >Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 1/13/2025 8:54 AM, zen cycle wrote: >>> On 1/12/2025 2:25 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>> On 1/12/2025 7:49 AM, zen cycle wrote: >>>>> On 1/11/2025 7:46 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> But individual power outputs from left and right legs? I can't >>>>>> imagine much value from that measurement. >>>>> >>>>> You answered your own question. "You" can't imagine it's useful. >>>>> There are a great many data geeks who find it quite useful. >>>> >>>> Maybe we can take a poll? How many here gather and use data on their >>>> individual legs' power output? >>> >>> I hardly consider this forum to be representative of the cycling >>> community at alrge. >> >> I certainly agree with that! This is a group with no members who were >> not interested in the title "tech". So if these people are not >> measuring individual leg power, I doubt it's very common. > >It’s also barely into double digits and its age range is slewed to the more >mature, I suspect I’m the youngest here but I’m about mid pack for a club >rider ie late 40’s/early 50’s > >I’d also note that due to the age range is a tendency for this effect. > >Noted by Douglas Adams “I've come up with a set of rules that describe our >reactions to technologies: >1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary >and is just a natural part of the way the world works. >2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is >new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. >3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order >of things.” > >Ie we become less curious as we age in general. >> >> Our bike club is mostly social, not very competitive. I do have friends >> who use "new" equipment (e.g. aero wheels, 13 cogs, road disc brakes) >> and a few who mention their KOM triumphs. Many of them use Garmin or >> similar devices. But IIRC none have ever discussed power meter readings. >> Maybe some new, younger club members are doing that, but I don't ride >> with those folks. >> >> Then there's the vast majority of bike riders who will never join a >> club, never look at a bike magazine, never try to ride fast, who just >> ride for fun. No power meters there. >> >They will not be selling power meters be that crank or pedal on the efforts >of club riders or racers, just wouldn’t be commercially viable! > >Roger Merriman I don't know what the quandary is. Some people use them some don't. I don't see any right or wrong, good or bad, issues worth arguing about. -- C'est bon Soloman