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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Todays rant Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 15:59:36 -0600 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: <181gljtmioa4ne2vlk605pbhs32gr7pi7k@4ax.com> <4gnhlj1gifu67ce73os02vgkb5eadq97oq@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 22:59:37 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6217c31e53512d2e12c52a584c1b676c"; logging-data="1836305"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/a2/hlgnFK0rNe4Z8wgtRz" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:urFHG3dJyD5Op4f8ZdX03uNJ+HQ= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3868 On 12/11/2024 3:06 PM, Zen Cycle wrote: > On 12/11/2024 3:00 PM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 12/11/2024 12:10 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> On 12/11/2024 12:36 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>> On 12/11/2024 11:07 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>> On 12/11/2024 6:06 AM, John B. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Reality is that ALL firearms are dangerious. [sic] >>>>> >>>>> John, are ALL firearms equally dangerous? Really? >>>>> >>>>> Of course not! >>>>> >>>>> The AR was specifically designed to be more dangerous >>>>> to the enemy than its predecessor. If that were not the >>>>> objective, there would have been no need for a new design. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> That was 65 years ago. Designs have progressed. >>>> >>>> Also, although I haven't looked recently, for many years >>>> the #1 fatal round in USA was .22LR overwhelmingly. >>>> >>>> Without editing or rephrasing Mr Slocumb's comment, "all >>>> firearms are dangerous" in in fact obviously true. >>> >>> John was using "All firearms are dangerous" specifically >>> as a defense of wide proliferation of AR-style rifles. >>> Check the thread. By ignoring that fact, his buddies are >>> pretending that all levels of danger are equally bad. >>> >>> Ignoring levels of danger is beyond absurd. If you accept >>> that, you may as well extend the concept to straight >>> pins, stairways, sunburn and hell, everything else in the >>> world. And you may as well advocate for private ownership >>> of nuclear weapons. >>> >>> (And I'll note that the gun fetishists here actually >>> _have_ tried to do that with other everyday items! I >>> won't remind people of their other chosen items, because >>> that will just set them off on other illogical chases.) >>> >> >> >> Every farmer in my are has plenty of ammonia rich >> fertilizer and a few hundred gallons of diesel. Not one of >> them has emulated Timothy McVeigh. Not once. >> >> Materiel is not volition. >> > > Ammonia-rich fertilizer and diesel fuel were not designed > with the intent to kill humans. > > Oh, for all the difference it made to 19 children; 168 people altogether. Perhaps the difference is in the act and the actor not the tool. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971