Path: ...!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: zen cycle Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Tom's demons are strong today! Re: RE: Re: Higher Education Is Overrated Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 07:40:29 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 78 Message-ID: References: <51CaP.21941$mi11.21796@fx48.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 13:40:31 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e4e00b4c1942fe54ebc88bb0e654a187"; logging-data="1035193"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/SRVZpau2iXnjjND8nvdyUzZRXVsk9jNs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:wE4xe6kGXwt5JK3S1Sh3FjHVmDM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 5035 On 12/28/2024 3:01 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 11:41:13 -0500, zen cycle > wrote: > >> On 12/27/2024 6:00 PM, cyclintom wrote: >>> The last board that was laid out by software had an INTERUPT line running to the interupt pin on the microprocessor > > If I may interrupt for a moment. > > A chip and a PCB (printed circuit board) are laid out. It's possible > that someone might lay out a software flow chart, but I've never seen > the term used in that manner. > > Reminder: The surest indications that someone has no experience with > the technology is the tendency to butcher the spelling, use the wrong > industry terms and are unfamiliar with the relevant jargon and > acronyms. > >> There is not a microprocessor that has ever been designed with an >> "interupt" signal. > > The Intel 8080 two hardware interrupt lines. NMI was a non-maskable > interrupt and INTR was a maskable interrupt which has a lower > priority. > > > The later 8085 had 5 hardware interrupt pins. > You missed the point. I was criticizing his spelling. All microprocessors have "interrupt" lines. None have "interupt" lines. If one is attempting to write code for a microprocessor and starts writing "interupt", they going to have a lot of problems. > >> Computer Science 101 - consistency in terms. But according you you, >> spelling shouldn't matter. > > I wished it were so. I've seen far to many terms be re-used and > technical terms replaced by marketing jargon to allegedly simplify > things. Intentionally wrong spelling to avoid trademark infringement > really irritates me. Bad spelling would probably disappear if there > was some means of enforcing correct spelling. The good news is that > software is rather sensitive to incorrect spelling of instructions. > The bad news is that most code generators, compilers and AI > auto-plagiarizers now include a built in spelling checker. Eventually, > the documentation will have perfect spelling once AI takes of the tech > writers job. Of course, it will still be unintelligible, make little > sense and resistant to decryption. I had to deal with such a manual > when installing a CNC controller where the documentation was probably > a Google translation from Chinese to English. > >>> And this was the latest and greatest board layout programs in 2008. > > Tom. What was the name and version of this latest and greatest PCB > layout program of 2008? > > Diversion: This is how "real men" did PCB layout on mylar with Bishop > pads and tape for the traces and red rubylith for the ground pours > (puddles): > > Oops... What is a White home sewing caching doing in my web pile? I'll > fix it later. > >>> You are so full of shit about the Techtronix wire fault detector >> >> Then prove it. Show me a link anywhere that shows how to use PWM to test >> cables. > > For me, Tom's problem is not PWM but rather that Tektronix doesn't > make a "wire fault detector" but instead makes "cable testers". Plenty > to choose from: > > Again, not knowing the correct terms is a good indication of Tom's > lack of experience with the technology and devices. >