Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: 8 & 9 year old girls riding bicycles Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 03:54:58 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <347kmjhemc3c7d9pesu2h69599nqlnhbma@4ax.com> <7jmmmjt7hpprlget22u82arlvstki1j6mn@4ax.com> <796nmj5lomcfvmor1mkhlin70mg4oogq9i@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 09:55:08 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="56169d03735850f5903f546467852c74"; logging-data="2460750"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+4GVkL/QkOqnWacsrfh7zfDlXXt7k0bb4=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:n+XjStA2+SDZlobe9LYLZDlcZYc= Bytes: 3675 On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 12:39:45 +0700, John B. wrote: >On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 20:17:54 -0500, Catrike Ryder > wrote: > >>On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 19:47:05 -0500, Frank Krygowski >> wrote: >> >>>On 12/24/2024 7:16 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>> >>>> Justice is a subjective evaluation. >>>Oh good grief. "Subjective evaluation": Our tricycle rider's latest >>>overused trope, intended to shut off discussion that makes him feel out >>>of his depth. >> >>Apparently, the concepts of subjective and objective are over >>Krygowski's low brow. >> >>>I think we're seeing an unfortunate side effect of democratic ideals. >>>When the people hear the phrase "All men are created equal" some of them >>>decided "My ideas are just as valid as anyone's, including the greatest >>>of geniuses who have devoted their entire life to studying the issue at >>>hand." Which is nonsense, of course. >> >>Actually, the value of everyone's ideas are simply what other people >>choose to put on them. >> >>>According to Abraham Lincoln, the founders did not mean that "all were >>>equal in color, size, intellect, moral developments, or social capacity." >>> >>>Especially intellect. It's blindingly obvious that those who have >>>studied nothing but their own daydreams are very confident that their >>>daydreams are completely valid. >>> >>>It's Dunning-Kruger at its best. >> >>Intellect is simply the ability to reason. You either have it or you >>don't. It's not something one can learn from a book or in a classroom. >>Many people think they are intellectual because they can repeat what >>somebody told them to say. > >You are over simplifying that as the ability to reason, and get a >useful solution, is, in part, often determined by their existing >knowledge. Yes, I'm not saying that existing knowledge isn't important, but a thinking individual sorts through, picks and chooses the existing knowledge base and then builds on it, while simply repeating it doesn't require any thought. They teach parrots to repeat what they've been told. It requires some thought to understand that because a few people who've gotten shot have a gun in their home doesn't mean that having a gun in your home makes you more likely to get shot. You can teach a parrot to say that it is. -- C'est bon Soloman