Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: vallor Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Synology Diskstation architecture (was: Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing) Date: 21 Jan 2025 02:48:36 GMT Lines: 118 Message-ID: References: <_hycnQxlN5kAphr6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <36bf96a5-527c-1d8b-a93b-6788cdd589a2@example.net> <1PKcna3Yf6vdFhX6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> <7b19252d-bfe8-9d48-0cd2-eb33e4a64179@example.net> <67897bb3@news.ausics.net> <6d5c7f67-7c7b-66aa-d9d3-54f71f77ae43@example.net> <198f4f8c-a0d0-7caf-b67e-1f61fee9de41@example.net> <35e42921-5781-8728-236f-afad1d3b56b1@example.net> <7258fd01-44f7-850d-3f69-54b93489f64d@example.net> <69ce04cf-80a7-7170-675f-4165ffedc92b@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net G+Va+uq7NQYKHXQVxHZwVQIMer6zWevIlNN0ou/OZ3hldynTN2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:DDwnmcOKTNlTeLoIFiUa9l2w+WU= sha256:Nmt5yoWGfVBsEwRig3Z89OJzOkY8tgyVARIiMYmFA48= X-Face: +McU)#<-H?9lTb(Th!zR`EpVrp<0)1p5CmPu.kOscy8LRp_\u`:tW;dxPo./(fCl CaKku`)]}.V/"6rISCIDP` User-Agent: Pan/0.161 (Hmm2; c45f6052; Linux-6.13.0) Bytes: 5372 On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 19:42:59 -0500, "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote in : > On 1/20/25 3:53 PM, D wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 20/01/2025 09:30, D wrote: >>>>> >>>>>  The Pi hat or OMV ? >>>> >>>> The pi, with directly connected spinning disks. Does the hat have its >>>> own extra power supply? >>> >>> I've managed to get a P4 I think to run one spinning rust disk without >>> extra power. >>> Strictly it depends on the disk. >>> The pi hat for 5 drives has an external 60W PSU >> >> Ahh, if it has an external PSU then there is no problem. Ideally, if >> the pi hat for 5 drives is intended to accomodate 5 spinning drives, it >> would be nice if it did so at full speeds. > > > One review said the WRITEs were a little pokey, > but not TOO bad. READs were apparently snappy. > > This is OK ... most stuff on HDDs is "write once / > read more often". > > >> Given that the server manufacturers seem to no longer want to produce >> smaller, cheaper nodes, but only want to sell huge GPU machines, I'm >> contemplating if it actually might not be possible to build a nice >> archive solution on pi:s, spinning disks and a few cards at a good >> price. >> >> To be continued... as the saying goes. > > Yep ... lemme get in and fool with my 5-drive unit a bit and I'll > write a hands-on report. The price is good enough (the DRIVES are $$$ > alas) > > Even without the SATA hat ... you CAN run a number of external USB > 3.x drives from a Pi. Won't be as quick, but it works OK. > > And yea, I know what you mean about everybody trending towards > "overkill" boxes/systems. Better $ margin I guess. > Still no shortage of motherboards - so you can build your own > "appropriate" boxes. > > For an NAS, it's the drive speeds that are kinda the limiting factor, > so even a 'slow' motherboard won't hurt anything. It's all I/O-bound. > > The popular Sinology canned NAS units - 4/6/8/12 drive units with > multiple network plugs - all use basically laptop-grade 'Celeron' > grade processors. Beg to differ...this is on my Synology Diskstation: root@DT:~# uname -a Linux DT 3.10.108 #42962 SMP Mon Aug 19 15:14:28 CST 2024 armv7l GNU/Linux synology_alpine_ds2015xs root@DT:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) Speed : 1.7GHz Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt CPU implementer : 0x41 CPU architecture: 7 CPU variant : 0x2 CPU part : 0xc0f CPU revision : 4 processor : 1 model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) Speed : 1.7GHz Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt CPU implementer : 0x41 CPU architecture: 7 CPU variant : 0x2 CPU part : 0xc0f CPU revision : 4 processor : 2 model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) Speed : 1.7GHz Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt CPU implementer : 0x41 CPU architecture: 7 CPU variant : 0x2 CPU part : 0xc0f CPU revision : 4 processor : 3 model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) Speed : 1.7GHz Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt CPU implementer : 0x41 CPU architecture: 7 CPU variant : 0x2 CPU part : 0xc0f CPU revision : 4 Hardware : AnnapurnaLabs Alpine (Device Tree) Revision : 0000 Serial : 0000000000000000 -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.13.0 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G "Laughing stock: cattle with a sense of humour."