Path: ...!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!us3.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=hbPjJ8W^JOP;WJ0ZJ7CLb_U5[F2hIijD_7J470dMQQ7[J4R`5ADBYnRZ7V X-Complaints-To: support@frugalusenet.com Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 19:37:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: OT: Typical Globlist Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design References: <1r67ddg.n2108eiyjg7sN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <1fhjojtghglio037es1sbi7qh7viqffgk0@4ax.com> <1r6ej8o.1ubf1cba2c7nkN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <678d7048$1$212408$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> Content-Language: en-US From: bitrex In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 40 Message-ID: <678d9ab6$3$3620717$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1737333430 reader.netnews.com 3620717 127.0.0.1:38595 Bytes: 2975 On 1/19/2025 5:18 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 16:36:08 -0500, bitrex wrote: > >> On 1/19/2025 4:49 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>>> The proposition that radiant heat generated by one burning would set off >>>> an adjacent house is pretty dumb. Fire codes are written to make sure >>>> that houses aren't vulnerable in that way. >>> >>> In that case, what spread the fire? >>> >>> >> >> Embers can fly up to 20 km depending on fuel and weather conditions, and >> during high winds fire breaks are useless. >> >> Observe embers from this doorbell cam: >> > > I don't doubt embers could have spread the original fires. What's > puzzling is how the hell could they have got massive and out of > control in the first place. 2024 was globally the hottest year on record, and Los Angeles experienced its warmest summer ever, following a decade of record heat. It's mitigated somewhat when the winter rains show up this year they didn't show up. The hills above Altadena/Pasadena have had lots of burns controlled and otherwise in recent years but after a certain percentage of the larger trees are gone (from climate change or logging/development or otherwise) they controlled burns don't do shit except let even more flammable invasive species in. The hills up there were covered in foxtail: the stuff burns like newsprint