Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr3.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!us3.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=0aPNLA:o5QBJ[86dk_ocUDU5[F2hIijDO7J470dMQQ7KJ4R`5ADBYnBZ7F X-Complaints-To: support@frugalusenet.com Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:54:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Disgraceful! Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design References: <98tcpj150alljouji63t7jo250pkuli5o8@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US From: bitrex In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 250128-8, 1/28/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 58 Message-ID: <67996e21$0$3620702$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1738108449 reader.netnews.com 3620702 127.0.0.1:53543 Bytes: 3578 On 1/27/2025 4:38 PM, john larkin wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:17:44 +0000, Cursitor Doom > wrote: > >> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 09:56:43 -0800, john larkin wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 11:29:00 +0000, Cursitor Doom >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Gentlemen, >>>> >>>> I never ceases to amaze me that for all I've learned about the theory >>>> side of electronics over the years, my construction skills have not >>>> improved one iota since I was about 10 years old. Case in point: >>>> >>>> https://disk.yandex.com/i/zGA2slnrNWqGjQ >>>> >>>> I cobbled this board up to automatically turn on the water supply when >>>> the soil moisture fell below a certain amount. I've got 240V/10A wires >>>> juxtaposed next to low voltage signal interconnects and components >>>> with the insulation smeared through by careless use of a soldering >>>> iron all secured with blobs of hot melt glue and many of the component >>>> lead ends close to shorting out. It's obvious I've paid scant regard >>>> to layout considerations as you can tell. I'm posting this so John >>>> Larkin can see for himself that having the ability to visualize 3-D >>>> apples with insects etc is of no help whatsoever in laying out boards. >>> >>> Works for me. >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kmjfxcvsix8fwmcyy6map/T840_E1.jpg?rlkey=tbvmyna46bkfxc3lc6a6yv64q&raw=1 >> >> Sorry - what exactly works for you? > > Visualizing the schematic and the layout and making both as beautiful > as possible. Beautiful things work better. I noticed that if you turn the Highland Technology logo sideways it looks kind of like a lady with three boobs. >> Are you saying you can visualize >> *and* layout a board? > > Certainly. PCB layout is fun, like a 3D color chess game. But it's so > labor intensive that I delegate most layouts. I do a few critical > ones, like picosecond stuff, because it's harder to explain to someone > else than it is to just do it. > >> Or are you saying this board has 240VAC in >> places with high currents? Or both?! > > The T840 makes 1200 volt pulses. There's no AC involved. It's powered > by 24 VDC. > -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com