Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Date: 5 Jan 2025 00:46:55 GMT Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <8b262a1f-507f-ef10-e4d3-a981dca5b7d1@example.net> <95bjnjt184f5s0oq9hqbk758bphq6ujtk4@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net xrvPC5XQBeC2AIPs8mSBfg93rW56oaa/VJnaEa0DpyDqxhAX7Q Cancel-Lock: sha1:MVXytsuLHpvQuJzRPeT+z7BPVsU= sha256:MBXV62NFPcI6fDmvWr188n+lKTK9CxVCzJEEPaVYFkQ= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2272 On Sat, 04 Jan 2025 15:51:15 -0600, chrisv wrote: > TJ wrote: > >>So the climate IS changing. I've watched it do so. But is it natural, or >>man-made? In my layman's opinion, it's probably both. The basic >>mechanism is probably natural, augmented by Man's contribution. >> >>But what can we do about it? Little of any significance, unless we are >>willing to take drastic measures - kill off about half the human >>population, give up modern power-hungry technology, that sort of thing. > > The West sure can't do anything about it. Southeast Asia drives climate > change. They are building hundreds of coal-fired power plants every > year in China and India. > > I'm rather astonished that this point almost never comes up in the > media, even given what liars they are. The coal trains rumble through here headed west. I believe they make a dogleg up to BC since the good people of Washington state frown on shipping coal from their ports. They're not building an atoll in the middle of the Pacific with it.