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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 06:15:40 +0000 Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <8b262a1f-507f-ef10-e4d3-a981dca5b7d1@example.net> <2e17ec15-582f-5a71-84e5-d4d490274270@example.net> <7454fa51-3534-2584-2197-90613efb2091@example.net> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 01:15:39 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <-UKdnbAmU_MRkR_6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 69 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-ydCkkawHS7NnZqPOMyJpaQEgtZ5/hthnLS/rE1Tr/CKjeMszPMUuS7WHnpV8mZpBgUEV0kPoSk+aOZK!ot2XTSquOnZ+LYVnwPS8RrNgEKT8X69YTgDuwShEPlykCwq45eg0G8qZcU74PwpwZ7JXjJVG4nZK!mie2oixe3T1sgNJCKetk X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4906 On 1/10/25 4:09 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 10/01/2025 08:34, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> On 1/10/25 2:27 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>    Ok, there was too much to snip/edit there ... >> >>    However I *do* ascribe to the principle of >>    'eggs & baskets'. We need to develop *everything* >>    and keep it ALL 'in the mix' just because. That's >>    the best survival strategy. Monolithic, single >>    niche, has been the doom of most species on earth. >>    Darwin CAN enlighten outside mere biology >>    (within sane limits). >> >>    PVs, eventually and in conjunction with good >>    energy-storage methods, are perfectly good and >>    viable for many apps. You can do it Just Because >>    you WANT to do it, even if a nuke grid IS >>    to be had. > > There are no suitable storage methods. Or we would have used them years > ago, > > >> >>    I live in a 'disaster zone'. I've got the utility >>    wires, a generator AND some PV panels that can >>    charge batteries and even make a little AC line >>    voltage. This is LAYERS, alternatives. NO one >>    thing is gonna always be reliable. >> > Fine. Now look ta the cost of all that versus cheap nuclear grid > electricity. > My sister in S Africa has been forced to do the same. Fortunately there > is a lot of sun and its warm so they dont need to use their batteries to > stay warm. And they cant cook, but that's what barbecues are for. > > This is only cost effective if the actual market for electricity is broken. > > And its mostly broken because of government interference and subsidising > 'renewables' > > >>    PVs CAN, eventually, eclipse traditional and >>    nuke power sources/grids. They're not there yet, >>    but - maybe - there's a longer future where they >>    can reach full potential. It's a Good Idea. >> > No. They can't. Not without massively expensive storage that simply > doesn't exist and no one knows how to build. > > >>    Now the neat trick is to program a Linux Pi >>    or something to smartly, promptly, intelligently, >>    switch between all yer layers as-needed. > > Switching between an array of zeros will always still produce a zero > Connecting permanently to a single reliable non zero is way cheaper. Not YET. As such PVs are still best suited for 'off-grid' apps. Some large power companies though have installed HUGE farms of PVs - they boost the grid during the day when most power is being used. That means they don't need to build new conventional power plants which are gawdawfully expensive and over-regulated these days. Used THAT way, they don't NEED "storage".