Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: "DeepSeek" - China AI App Shakes Up Tech Markets Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 21:05:25 +0000 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <20250128081639.00004242@gmail.com> <20250128130321.00002cc9@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 22:05:25 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="badafcb688ceae3163f4072549b31f8e"; logging-data="3286586"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Q8ExTqjNXCA0HXe2GI/b8RpzkchPHdi0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:+qNzILv1DxETkBQMOt8NC15CToI= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3277 On 30/01/2025 20:19, Lars Poulsen wrote: > On 2025-01-30, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> ... I have in my portfolio anything that is *managed by someone else*, >>>> that has shown consistent growth over the last few years. > > On 30/01/2025 13:44, Lars Poulsen wrote: >>> TNP, what do you mean by "managed by someone else"? >>> Not managed by you? Not managed by an investor-appointed board? > > On 2025-01-30, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> I mean these days I invest in managed funds, not stocks shares and bonds >> directly. > > My research says that index funds on the whole perform on a par with > most managed funds. Which I learned from Warren Buffett many years ago. > > If you were a funds manager who could reliably beat the market, wouldn't > you spend your time managing your own investments rather than thos of > other people? > Most of them actually do that exact thing. But the results are there. Some managers consistently beat the markets. Some funds habitually fail to return anything. > The only "individual stock" I hold is Berkshire Hathaway, but that is > really more of an exchange traded managed investment fund. And it has > done slightly better than SP500, butt not by a lot, and it probably will > get worse than that once Warren retires or dies. > >> Curiously physical gold is over time a very good hedge against inflation. >> >> £10,000 purchased by someone I know in 2005 seems to be worth about >> £80,000 now... > > That's 11% annual yield. Good, but nbot amazing. > I aim for 20% but am happy to accept 10.. -- For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. H.L.Mencken