Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 18:22:39 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <080c854de10093669d87615694e51dd052ed2394@i2pn2.org> <80abaa335fdefb7dfd2cf4694a8bc1eba7f3eecd@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2025 18:22:39 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c18b476823b5321779f9f8668e16b24c"; logging-data="1454043"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+HbgEcB+wgepmwmGCoS7febqdiilsmizk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:cQeTWyr1xLoV72cQKKOHFwPfPeU= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2358 On 03.02.2025 16:15, Python wrote: > Le 03/02/2025 à 16:11, crank Wolfang Mückenheim aka WM a écrit : >> German A(n), or English F(n) >> is the FISON {1, 2, 3, ..., n}. >> The assumption is that U(F(n)) = ℕ. >> >> By induction we prove that every F(n) can be removed without changing >> the union. Therefore the assumption leads to { } = ℕ. Therefore the >> assumption is wrong. > > Anyone able to claim such a fallacy You appear far unable to understand this discussion. Every intelligent mathematician understands: All natural numbers created by Peano induction are subject to induction and can be removed by the same induction. Matheology needs the wselfcontradictory assumption that the set ℕ is constructed by induction but cannot be deconstructed by induction. By the way, have you meanwhile understood why Rennenkampff's example failed? Hint: First you have to enumerate the euros. Regards, WM