Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 23:05:18 +0100 Lines: 88 Message-ID: References: <262i5lxil7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net PVYdnr7SX1p1xff7OyQ6sQNNWcv114KoHcFco9VlB1w2WBY9Oq X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:U8UGq54hU8AzRHWx31lTz4tchEo= sha256:vCCtBZueYm3uKKnbXblOt0ZMRZ8WqruGZNLZbB3az1E= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: Bytes: 4822 On 2025-01-14 17:54, R.Wieser wrote: > Carlos, > >>> Besides, a troll normaly ends with (good-humoured or not) telling/showing >>> his opponent(s) how they fell for their goading. Instead arlen here just >>> "fades away". >> >> We would have to discuss types of trolls :-) >> I'm not an expert on that. > > Luckily(!), neither am I. :-) > >> He claims that he can be found by inspecting his headers and that I'm >> stupid for not finding him fast. Is that true, is there a header that >> gives him away, or at least rise the suspicions? > > Not that I know of. Although in this case his (chosen by himself) > "@facts.com" email addy does give a bit of a hint. Right! That's in the name I use for his filter. > > Furthermore "marion"s first post(!) containing "they're a moron" was enough > to raise my suspicion, and the complaining about "I figured you out" will > most likely have been a lighthouse signal to the one who made that remark. That's true. > > Quite a while ago I asked the same to someone here who said he had > experience/knowledge with email and newsgroup headers, and even he said he > could effectivily only make guesses. > > Also, being able to just extract the users identity from the newspost > headers would no go well with most of people - including arlen here - and > the newsgroup provider enabeling such a thing would be hemmoraging users > when that would come out in the open. > > So no, there isn't anything in there from which you can extract a posters > identity. > > However, there is a (likely) possibility that one of those headers contains > a random(sh?) number which, if you have access to the newsgroup-servers > look-up table you could find the number and next to it the identification > the person used to sign up with. Yes, of course. > > Than again, IIRC until last year I used an newgroup host which didn't ask > for a signup, so the trace would end there. > > And do realize that arlen is one of the knights-of-claim-a-lot, meaning that > he seldom, if ever, supports his claims with verifyable data. Right. > > There are a few possibilities for his claim : > > 1) He actually is able to do what he says. Though he's way to eager to show > off what all he can do, so I think we can forget about that. > > 2) He thinks he noticed a constant or a pattern in those newsgroup-message > headers contents, and concluded that that identifies him - blightely > ignoring that even if we would know where that that constant would be > located in the headers, we would not be able to ascertain who that that > constant belongs to. > > 3) He's goading you/us with some "I know something you don't so I'm more > important than you!". Which he definitily is the person for. > > Last but not least, I've not heard of anyone being able to do what arlen > there has been claiming for years now. Right. > > To recuperate : > >> is there a header that gives him away, or at least rise the suspicions? > > Not to my knowledge. Ok, so I was not missing anything. -- Cheers, Carlos.