Path: ...!news.nobody.at!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Corr.: now -> new (Was: I never post boring schooling) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 23:33:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 22:33:43 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="1026610"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.20 Cancel-Lock: sha1:VbIZ0MJMrfkl06AIHLgjIYVVs2E= X-User-ID: eJwNyMEBwCAIA8CVRCDBcQRh/xHae54rBEWDw3x8MuMyDYV+ddncpMj0o61q3Zv1V0153j7xlvSEKla/OJ34AHd9FmI= In-Reply-To: Bytes: 5639 Lines: 140 Hi, Typo: now -> new > to generate now thinking Should read: > to generate new thinking I shit and piss on some asslicking group that cannot think on his own. Thank god USENET has only rarely such group morons. Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > You wouldn't notic that I speak for myself > always and ever. Just remove the links and > you see its all text original by me. > > I always post geniun commentary to current > events which are solely the product of my > own mind. I do not intend to educate something. > > My intention is to document my current > understanding and to generate now thinking. > If you have expected some schooling, I am very > > sorry for you. I never post boring schooling. > > Bye > > ---------------- cut here ----------------- > > Because of the wide availability of Machine Learning > via Python libraries , the whole world (at least China) > has become a big Petri Dish that is experimenting with > > new strategies to evolve brains on the computer. > Recent discovery seems to be Group Preference Optimization. > This is when you make the chat bot, detect and react > > differently to different groups of people. It seems to > work on the "policy level". I don't understand it yet > completely. But chat bots can then evolve and use > > multiple policies automatically: > > Now it seems that it is also at the core of DeepSeekMath, > what is possibly detected is not group of people, but > mathematical topics, so that in the end it excells. > > When unsupervised learning is used groups or math > topics might be found from data, through a form of > abduction. > > ---------------- cut here ----------------- > > > Physfitfreak schrieb: >> On 2/4/25 3:06 AM, Mild Shock wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Because of the wide availability of Machine Learning >>> via Python libraries , the whole world (at least China) >>> has become a big Petri Dish that is experimenting with >>> >>> new strategies to evolve brains on the computer. >>> Recent discovery seems to be Group Preference Optimization. >>> This is when you make the chat bot, detect and react >>> >>> differently to different groups of people. It seems to >>> work on the "policy level". I don't understand it yet >>> completely. But chat bots can then evolve and use >>> >>> multiple policies automatically: >>> >>> Group Preference Optimization >>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.11523 >>> >>> DeepSeekMath: Pushing the Limits >>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.03300 >>> >>> Now it seems that it is also at the core of DeepSeekMath, >>> what is possibly detected is not group of people, but >>> mathematical topics, so that in the end it excells. >>> >>> When unsupervised learning is used groups or math >>> topics might be found from data, through a form of >>> abduction. >>> >>> Bye >>> >>> Mild Shock schrieb: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Wait till USA figures out there is a second >>>> competitor besides DeepSeek, its called Yi-Lightning: >>>> >>>> Yi-Lightning Technical Report >>>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.01253 >>>> >>>> It was already discussed 2 months ago: >>>> >>>> Eric Schmidt DROPS BOMBSHELL: China DOMINATES AI! >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddWuEUjo4u4 >>>> >>>> Bye >>>> >>> >> >> >> Throwing papers at us (i.e. in usenet) although better than nothing, >> it still is an extremely inefficient way to communicate. >> >> Speak, yourself, in the way that a first year undergraduate prof >> explains stuff to the students who just a few months earlier finished >> their high schooling. >> >> Then you will communicate. >> >> If it is too difficult to do that (cause requires deep understanding >> of the subject by yourself), or, if you don't get time doing all that, >> then break the job down into little pieces. A day at a time, or a week >> at a time. >> >> You'd be spending the same amount of time as you are now, and yet you >> will actually communicate something with those with physics background. >> >> Did I have to say this? I don't think so. But your intentions here are >> vague. But if you need support for your own gains in understanding the >> subject, you just have to do it the way I explained above. Then you >> will get that support. Not from Bozos and "engineers", but from me and >> anybody with actual physics background and such trainings. >> >> There are a few actual physicists in relativity group that can join >> in, but only if you do it the way I explained above.