Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: "Kerr-Mudd, John" Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: To sum up Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 14:56:16 +0000 Organization: Dis Lines: 28 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <20250207145616.772f071ac68af44d329011ca@127.0.0.1> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="54783"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:EKMeBRPN4y5Vv8Y8nBnEZhd41Jc= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 5FB6A22978C; Fri, 07 Feb 2025 09:56:02 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FAAD229783 for ; Fri, 07 Feb 2025 09:56:00 -0500 (EST) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.98) for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1tgPls-000000026Wf-3NbV; Fri, 07 Feb 2025 15:55:56 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A9375FD81 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2025 14:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/5A9375FD81; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=127.0.0.1 id 3D67ADC01CA; Fri, 7 Feb 2025 15:55:53 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2025 15:55:53 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX19CQt2uOYrkzM2XwJja/rj1npNrZcSv1uq4hXkVO5LZPA== X-Newsreader: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32) tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED, USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3299 On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:29:54 +1100 MarkE wrote: > Has talk.origins run its course, with this incarnation (post-GG > meteorite impact) the last of the dinosaurs? > > And what of the Origins debate? My contention is that progressive > discoveries with the complexity and precision of life are making Mt > Improbable higher and higher [1]. ID has gained and sustained traction > because this trend is real. I would add to this arguments relating to > first-cause, fine-tuning, the Cambrian explosion, etc. > > Yes, I am aware of the general disagreement here with my position. > > Time will tell... > [It's complicated, and we don't understand it yet] So, Sure, a god made it hard to understand. Sorry, if God was a Proper Designer a cheaper design would be simpler. > -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug