Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Washington bird flu in terns and seals Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 14:54:05 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 23 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="11326"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:sNIfWQNTRdF8/Qj5TOszWeGh5yg= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id A5880229782; Thu, 07 Nov 2024 15:54:14 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72E8A229765 for ; Thu, 07 Nov 2024 15:54:12 -0500 (EST) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.98) for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1t99W7-000000024I6-0X5h; Thu, 07 Nov 2024 21:54:11 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8AE15F88E for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2024 20:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/C8AE15F88E; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 5802FDC01A9; Thu, 7 Nov 2024 21:54:09 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2024 21:54:09 +0100 (CET) Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/87Eikl18NGBRiivdlZrUy7zVddrou6Dw= FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3854 https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/washington-bird-flu-outbreak-spread-seals-study-finds/EJL72QGHTZCM5GPQ4UMQZWZK6U/ For some reason they are putting out old information on infections that occurred before the dairy virus existed. It is likely the H5N1 genotype B3.13 that eventually infected dairy cattle, but the birds and seals were infected in 2023 when the virus was still propagating mostly in wild birds. The virus is not the same one that infected the recent Washington poultry flocks. The poultry flocks were not infected by wild birds, but dairy cattle. Early in the dairy infection in both Texas and Michigan it was determined that the infection was spreading herd to herd and from herd to poultry flocks, and that there was no evidence of a wild bird intermediate. Basically all states that have infected cattle also started getting infected poultry flocks because it was found that some dairy workers also worked on other dairy farms and 7% of them also worked on poultry farms. Washington should be testing their dairy herds because the dairy virus is spread herd to herd and then infects local poultry flocks. It might be transmitted back to dairy herds from infected poultry workers, but flocks are rapidly depopulated, but herds are allowed to shed the virus and infect the human workers for months. Ron Okimoto