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From: Tim Rentsch
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: Keeping other stuff with addresses (was: What is an N-bit machine?)
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 10:00:11 -0800
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Thomas Koenig writes:
> Tim Rentsch schrieb:
>
>> Thomas Koenig writes:
>>
>>> Tim Rentsch schrieb:
>>>
>>>> Thomas Koenig writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Tim Rentsch schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas Koenig writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think "ALU can add up to n-bit numbers" is a reasonable
>>>>>>> definition for an n-bit architecture, which also fits the
>>>>>>> 16-bit 68000. It does not fit the 360/30, or the Nova (but
>>>>>>> see de Castro's remark on the latter).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To me, the phrase "n-bit architecture" should depend only on
>>>>>> such characteristics as are defined by the architecture, and
>>>>>> not depend on features of a particular implementation. The
>>>>>> 360/30 has a 32-bit (or is it 64-bit?) architecture, but only
>>>>>> an 8-bit implementation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I may add a personal note, it's disappointing that postings
>>>>>> in a group nominally devoted to computer architecture routinely
>>>>>> ignore the distinction between architecture and implementation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm well aware of that distinction.
>>>>
>>>> I expect most of the folks who participate in comp.arch are
>>>> aware of the distinction. What I find disappointing are
>>>> postings that ignore or blur the distinction, so it's hard
>>>> to tell where one domain ends and the other begins.
>>>
>>> If you find discussions about how certain times were used
>>> in the past disappointing... [..]
>>
>> That isn't what I said, nor was it what I meant.
>
> If it walks like a duck...
That is nothing but a gratuitous personal insult. Why do you
engage in such conduct?