Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Vincent Maycock Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Sabine Hossenfleder reports on a study that finds that the universe is not fine tuned for life Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 08:49:02 -0800 Organization: University of Ediacara Lines: 34 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="3991"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 93C31229782; Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:49:02 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 184D0229765 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:48:59 -0500 (EST) by pi-dach.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTP id 4AQGmuMS839486 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2024 17:48:57 +0100 by egress-mx.phmgmt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002C460685 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2024 16:48:50 +0000 (UTC) by serv-4.ord.giganews.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCF4444DD7 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2024 10:48:56 -0600 (CST) by serv-4.i.ord.giganews.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id 4AQGmuqZ008733; Tue, 26 Nov 2024 10:48:56 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: serv-4.i.ord.giganews.com: news set sender to poster@giganews.com using -f X-Path: nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 16:48:55 +0000 X-Original-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3984 On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 07:31:13 -0500, jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote: >On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 13:53:36 -0800, Vincent Maycock > wrote: > >>On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 16:44:22 +0000, Ernest Major >><{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXzV7zdl4oU >> >>It's not so much that the physical constants are optimized, it's that >>they're in the right range (which may or may not include the >>"optimum"). Furthermore, the paper being cited focuses only on the >>cosmological constant, not the many other constants that seem to make >>it unlikely that there will be the right conditions for life to evolve >>given one chance to do so. I don't know why Sabine Hossenfelder hates >>the multiverse, but she's doing the right by trying to falsify it >>(which I would consider one of the weaknesses of the multiverse theory >>-- that is, how to test it). > > >That depends on which multiverse you mean: > I mean the inflationary universe, and perhaps some of the string multiverse as well. Definitely not the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. There still seems to be some controversy about whether the gravitational effects of other universes should be or have been detected. Again, those who claim that those effects should be but haven't been discovered are doing the right thing by trying to generate testable predictions based on the physics of the multiverse.