Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: CDC lists 52 confirmed cases of dairy influenza in humans Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 09:00:54 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="33157"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:Wjer9VZp6wismgIJW3mDhZ8dS7M= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 1EE86229782; Sat, 16 Nov 2024 10:01:09 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBB8E229765 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2024 10:01:06 -0500 (EST) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.98) for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1tCKIL-000000048JM-1kT5; Sat, 16 Nov 2024 16:01:05 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E87D5F886 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2024 15:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/5E87D5F886; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id F0EA6DC01A9; Sat, 16 Nov 2024 16:00:57 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 16:00:57 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX198b0uKjTwIkDH6m90rIb4WrzTHxkC+me0= FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED, USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 4280 On 11/15/2024 7:33 PM, RonO wrote: > https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html > > It looks like the CDC added 5 more cases from California and 1 more case > for Washington.  They are also claiming that there was one positive case > submitted from California that could not be confirmed at the CDC and 3 > cases submitted of Poultry workers from Washington that could not be > confirmed by the CDC.  Total is now 52. > > The CDC is continuing to not add the seropositive (evidence of past > infection) dairy workers and the close contact of the Missouri patient > as being infected.  That would add 11 more to the total. > > Ron Okimoto > It wasn't one more case in Washington, but an Oregon poultry worker. https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/oregon-reports-first-h5-case-farm-worker-california-reports-5-more The CDC is counting this as a dairy virus infection, but the Oregon report did not identify the virus as the dairy H5N1. The previous poultry flocks in Oregon had been infected by another strain of H5N1 found in migratory fowl. The Oregon health department should do contact tracing from the infected flock to find out what worker brought in the dairy virus to the poultry flock. That worker may have come from Washington or California, but it may be a local dairy that is infected. In all the other cases the poultry farms got infected by local dairies that had workers that also worked on poultry farms. The most recent example of this was Utah that found 8 local dairies infected after the poultry farm went down. Ron Okimoto