Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.ai.philosophy Subject: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- COMPLETE PROOF Followup-To: comp.theory Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2025 19:13:56 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 93 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 02:13:59 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4374cbf9085ed196f7b199c95b5aca1b"; logging-data="308664"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19SIHX+h2BNY/+TazOTN81+" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:1OdFarMo3Hd7REC1ocESCL/tu9A= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250215-8, 2/15/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4583 On 2/15/2025 2:49 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2025-02-14 12:40:04 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 2/14/2025 2:58 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2025-02-14 00:07:23 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> On 2/13/2025 3:20 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2025-02-13 04:21:34 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2/12/2025 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-02-11 14:41:38 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course not. However, the fact that no reference to that article >>>>>>>>> before or when HHH >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That paper and its code are the only thing that I have been >>>>>>>> talking about in this forum for several years. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doesn't matter when you don't say that you are talking about that >>>>>>> paper. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, that is irrelevant to the fact that the subject line >>>>>>> contains >>>>>>> a false claim. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is a truism and not one person on the face of the >>>>>> Earth can possibly show otherwise. >>>>> >>>>> The fact that the claim on subject line is false is not a truism. >>>>> In order to determine the claim is false one needs some knowledge >>>>> that is not obvious. >>>> >>>> When you try to show the steps attempting to show that >>>> it is false I will point out the error. >>> >>> Step 1: Find people who know C. >>> Step 2: Show them DD of OP and ask. >>> >>>> This is the only topic that I will discuss and any >> >> typedef void (*ptr)(); >> int HHH(ptr P); >> >> int DD() >> { >>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >>    if (Halt_Status) >>      HERE: goto HERE; >>    return Halt_Status; >> } >> >> int main() >> { >>    HHH(DD); >> } >> >> DD  correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally. > > That claim has already shown to be false. Nothing above shows that > HHH does not return 0. If it does DD also returns 0. > *You (and everyone else) is proven wrong by the following* 918-1156 // All of the lines of termination analyzer HHH 1355-1370 // DD() through main() https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c The assembly language source code of every function in Halt7.c https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7out.txt This shows the complete execution trace of (a) main (b) DD It does not show the 171 pages of execution trace of HHH. This can be much more easily verified by the provided 239 lines of source code: 918-1156 Although the code for HHH is very difficult to understand (Only Mike has ever really tried to understand it) At least now it is all in one single contiguous block. The x86utm operating system functions that it calls are found here: https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/x86utm.cpp https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/include/Read_COFF_Object.h -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer