Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 09:09:09 +0000 Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy References: <4RVeP.812124$bYV2.164030@fx17.iad> <08d05lx8s4.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <3uRfP.66870$2xE6.46054@fx18.iad> <7PqcneaP1-evdOL6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@earthlink.com> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 04:09:09 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 50 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-AeNo81RRSPmzETO1IC4EsrrMMMpoZfCK/QDeaBiQwMEEequhqdXmfLO+XmiaBdWFRbc2BSxySFA/jVv!QjEU8oP6IpPgsFHa1SrGlp3wSVM1qXUKIj97da/6OtIq9StV13lGsCG9SzLGdsI8pqnHYMuLkWtP!vBrpSWx+D3kBdfueeYBh X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4073 On 1/10/25 2:31 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 09/01/2025 23:31, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> Now 100+ years from now, if all remains constant, the >>    ice will have melted back some more and there might be >>    a more useful exposed rim. > > Go and calculate the mass of ice on Greenland, and its latent heat of > melting, and divide that by a hundred years and tell me that somehow the > sun is going to provide that level of excess energy to the planet . As I said elsewhere, I don't see Greenland melting anytime soon. 'Climate' suffers 'cooling periods' roughly every 500 years - often driven by massive Indonesian volcanic events (sometimes asteroids). Iceland may sometimes play a role. I think Greenland is mostly 'cycling' - right now it's slowly melting but sometime soon the climate may change a few degrees and it'll build up a lot more ice again. > The ice age didn't end in a century. In fact it hasn't ended, > technically. We are in an interstadial. Well ... the 'main part' of the last ice age DID end pretty abruptly in terms of geological time. Nobody is sure exactly why - all the factors that co-contributed. My GUESS is that sea levels got low enough to destabilize the methane hydrate deposits. There may be proxy evidence - we'll see. > But the point is it took thousands of years for the ice to melt. Well ... more like maybe 1000 years. The bullshit "world flood" then happened as ice-dams and such failed and sent Huge quantities of water down river tracts in the northern hemisphere. I can see why so many people imagined the entire world was flooded. Thing is, the last Big Freeze happened really quick too. SOME evidence points to an asteroid hitting arctic Canada or Greenland. All the causes/equations are difficult, hard to pin down, but not impossible. 25 years from now we'll have a much better picture. Might even be able to take advantage.