Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 20:52:00 +0100 Lines: 122 Message-ID: <08d05lx8s4.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> References: <8b262a1f-507f-ef10-e4d3-a981dca5b7d1@example.net> <4RVeP.812124$bYV2.164030@fx17.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net sRfYXFNVwHGpxywRQ8JabQ9ZWTF/ZR0cRbFrTL8GEj97Vp79Tf X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:rIdzhMVdwMVdnQYmR1/tR57cppQ= sha256:a7Qe4fUiUXzRpE4zUHw4pekGqGdiHjeyzvXL+YKMp5o= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: Bytes: 7451 On 2025-01-07 19:30, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > On 2025-01-07 13:14, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >> Andrzej Matuch wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >> >>> On 2025-01-07 11:26, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >>>> >>>>> On 2025-01-07 08:43, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2025-01-06 16:20, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse >>>>>>>> code: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 06/01/2025 19:06, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-06 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 06/01/2025 13:49, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> The way they sell it, warming means a lesser availability of >>>>>>>>>>>> fresh >>>>>>>>>>>> water. Obviously, this would result in people dying. With >>>>>>>>>>>> cooling >>>>>>>>>>>> though, there would be a decreased availability of food in >>>>>>>>>>>> general, >>>>>>>>>>>> so I don't see how one is worse than the other. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Except the narrative says that all of greenland will melt. >>>>>>>>>>> That's a >>>>>>>>>>> fuck of a lot of fresh water >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If all of Greenland will melt, the people who are suddenly >>>>>>>>>> inconvenienced by the world's warming could move there and >>>>>>>>>> turn the >>>>>>>>>> continent-like country into something inhabitable for the >>>>>>>>>> first time in >>>>>>>>>> thousands of years. I imagine that as a result of it never >>>>>>>>>> really being >>>>>>>>>> used for agriculture, that land is incredibly fertile. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not wrong there. In fact huge areas of Canadian, Alaskan and >>>>>>>>> Siberian >>>>>>>>> tundra would be really quite nice places to live. Scarcely >>>>>>>>> worse than >>>>>>>>> Scotland >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Except for buildings and equipment sinking into the melting >>>>>>>> tundra :-D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is soil underneath all of that, Chris. >>>>>> >>>>>>        https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-military- >>>>>> sees-growing-threat-in-thawing-permafrost/ >>>>>> >>>>>>        Climate change is rapidly altering the Arctic landscape, in >>>>>> particular the >>>>>>        permafrost that serves as a foundation for buildings across >>>>>> the region. >>>>>>        Warming temperatures are thawing out the frozen ground, and >>>>>> in the process >>>>>>        it is threatening to unsettle structures that were built >>>>>> decades ago. >>>>> >>>>> "... that were built decades ago." How many buildings have been >>>>> erected >>>>> decades ago in the waste known as Greenland? Even in Quebec where the >>>>> north is settled to a degree, the amount of buildings in existence is >>>>> minimal because the population is itself tiny. >>>>> >>>>>>        That's particularly worrisome for the U.S. military, which >>>>>> maintains >>>>>>        facilities across the Arctic region. And it's one reason >>>>>> Hicks embarked on >>>>>>        a two-day tour of the nation’s northernmost military bases. >>>>>> >>>>>>        “Building and maintaining infrastructure — like runways — >>>>>> on permafrost >>>>>>        presents unique challenges for Arctic nations — which are >>>>>> growing with the >>>>>>        effects of climate change,” Hicks wrote in a Twitter post >>>>>> on Monday. >>>>> >>>>> Once there is no longer permafrost, those challenges will be >>>>> eradicated too. >>>> >>>> And replacement structures will be built/rebuilt. >>>> >>>> And that doesn't include methane release. >>> >>> I don't mind if the people building new structure fart a time or two. Do >>> you, Chris? >> >> Cut the patronizing crap. > > I can't help but patronize here. You're looking at a gigantic country, > bigger than Europe, which is more or less uninhabited at the moment > because of its unfavourable conditions. The climate _might_ be warming > with the result being an uninhabited continent of a country becoming > viable for life, and you're concerned that the few buildings it has > might be destroyed and/or replaced, as if that hasn't happened in the > West before, and that some methane might be released. Who gives a shit? > Suddenly, you have a place where you can send the useless people looking > to be refugees in the West, if they really want freedom and another shot > at life. Suddenly, you have access to a wide variety of resources which > have not yet been exploited. And here _you_ are, Chris, concerned that > living there might increase the temperature in one hundred years by > another 0.1 degree and increase the sea level by a millimetre. > > Funny enough, there are lots of buildings erected over a century ago > that are surrounded by the same height of water today than they were > back then. Nothing has changed regardless of what some scientists they > purchased tell you. We already know that the "global cooling," "global > warming" and finally "climate change" garbage is a scam meant to enrich > the people at the top even more. We are also aware that a lot of the > floodings that have happened recently, like in Spain, were manufactured > not natural. If you get rid of the structures holding the water out of > certain areas, it's obvious that you will end up with flooding. What the fuck are you talking about? What structures? That's bullshit, rightwing propaganda. -- Cheers, Carlos.