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From: Athel Cornish-Bowden
Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 10:25:23 +0200
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On 2024-07-05 22:25:52 +0000, Snidely said:
> On Friday or thereabouts, wugi asked ...
>> Op 4/07/2024 om 19:09 schreef Athel Cornish-Bowden:
>>> On 2024-07-04 17:03:35 +0000, wugi said:
>>>
>>>> Op 1/07/2024 om 7:56 schreef Hibou:
>>>>> Le 01/07/2024 à 04:44, HenHanna a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A pair of pants, or A pair of trousers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... ok because each Pair kinda looks like [2 pipes].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...but...
>>>>>> "a Pair of Panties" ?????
>>>>>
>>>>> There appears to be a class of things that exist only in the plural - a
>>>>> pair of tweezers, scissors, pliers, sunglasses... trousers, underpants,
>>>>> knickers, tights... - things that bifurcate or are made up of two bits.
>>>>> I suppose the briefer garments inherited the plural from longer ones
>>>>> (though a few minutes' searching yields no support for this; briefs
>>>>> were apparently in use in Ancient Egypt).
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Why does English name all these things as pairs, being a single object?
>>>> Others like French have a few (lunettes, ciseaux).
>>>
>>> But pantalon is singular, though the English word derived from it,
>>> pantaloons,is plural.
>>
>> Not an explanation, but it seems like a demonstration of how English
>> likes to see things in "double" ;-)
>>
>>>> Others like Dutch have none of it in plural or "dual".
>>
>> Even twins are just one "tweeling".
>
> What is term for each individual twin?
In the case of my twin grandchildren (not identical, and of opposite
sexes) it would be "twin". "She is a twin", "She has a twin brother",
etc.
>
>>
>>>> Any historic reason?
>
> Nah, happened mostly in the quiet times.
>
> /dps
--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
in England until 1987.