Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Montana: "Let's make stupidity mandatory!" Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 12:34:49 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <7ORhP.796214$DYF8.668936@fx14.iad> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 18:34:51 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="098b8b6dfd60e7a497eae152f2fb7f65"; logging-data="140966"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/99Y8Cm4Mboc7i/I61KNP6gSJ/cQIvPak=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:IAj/ZWulH/u3NfBOI+1otHQcToI= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3105 On 1/17/2025 11:59 AM, AMuzi wrote: > On 1/17/2025 10:55 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 1/16/2025 11:30 PM, John B. wrote: >>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:07:10 -0500, Frank Krygowski >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I suggest a test. Put Mr. Tricycle out in the wilderness all alone. I >>>> predict he won't better himself or his situation. In fact, I predict he >>>> won't survive long. >>>> >>>> OTOH, human beings working cooperatively have built entire >>>> civilizations. >>> >>> Your argument sounds so logical... until one actually work with >>> primitive people, the ones the trike man is talking about. And yes I >>> have worked with this sort of people. In one case we had to call in >>> the Indonesian military to stop a "war" between two villagers over who >>> would keep a worn out plastic tarpaulin. Hardly an example of >>> "cooperatively". >> >> Of course there have always been wars - although I note you were >> honest enough to put "war" in quotes. When two villagers fight it's >> not a war. >> >> The term "war" when correctly used implies cooperation. Each army >> cooperates within itself. >> >> The oh-so-proud rugged individualists might try attacking an army to >> see whether individualism beats cooperation. >> >> > > Like at Lexington perhaps? The colonists certainly cooperated among themselves, no? Your counterargument needs to be one man who took on an army and won. -- - Frank Krygowski