Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Datasheet-flation? Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 07:56:39 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <1r3ix4d.1yypjir8hoviuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <1r3jhb1.ks7h3uj4pk00N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <1r3sfq2.1p1qdnk1d8sh9wN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 16:56:40 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5d73daf68fc9993b9a096e0ba91381b7"; logging-data="3601363"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+6ZVc8VCK5aSS06x0u1Qtr" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:OzvFNp8RukvAlS6MuSiOMoYMq3k= Bytes: 3181 On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 16:00:36 +0100, "Carlos E.R." wrote: >On 2024-12-02 15:00, john larkin wrote: >> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 23:35:11 +0100, "Carlos E.R." >> wrote: >> >>> On 2024-11-29 18:32, Jeroen Belleman wrote: >>>> On 11/29/24 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 2024-11-29 15:22, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>>>> Jasen Betts wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2024-11-24, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>>>>>> Cursitor Doom wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>> the English and American "billion" was >>>>>>>>> harmonised many years ago at one thousand million so there's no >>>>>>>>> confusion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can you give a reference for that?  I haven't found one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04440/ >>>>>>> SN04440.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, that clarifies the situation.  The English Billion still >>>>>> exists but in 1957 British Ministers were told to use the American >>>>>> meaning as it was considered "International" by the then Prime Minister. >>>>>> >>>>>> Obviously it cannot be completely international if there are still >>>>>> countries using it to mean Bi-million nowadays. >>>>> >>>>> And languages. Spanish, in Spain at least, a billion is a million >>>>> million. So one has to be careful when translating. >>>>> >>>> >>>> All this abundantly demonstrates that we're better off using the >>>> metric prefixes instead. It'll be next to impossible to make >>>> politicians and finance accept that though... >>> >>> Right! >>> >>> Or notations like 5*10^9 or 5E9 (calculators did this. Do they still >>> do? 5E9 is very simple) >> >> 10^9 = 1e10 in some places. > >er... > >10^9 = 1e9 Except when it ain't.