Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!nntp.terraraq.uk!.POSTED.tunnel.sfere.anjou.terraraq.org.uk!not-for-mail From: Richard Kettlewell Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi Subject: Re: "Held back" updates... Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2025 08:55:23 +0000 Organization: terraraq NNTP server Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: innmantic.terraraq.uk; posting-host="tunnel.sfere.anjou.terraraq.org.uk:172.17.207.6"; logging-data="128245"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@innmantic.terraraq.uk" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cV+WYylAc+6aWwiYSuxOSMWZvbw= X-Face: h[Hh-7npe<v9!1Z&W?r\c.!4DXH5PWpga"ha +r0NzP?vnz:e/knOY)PI- X-Boydie: NO Bytes: 2370 Lines: 36 bp@www.zefox.net writes: > Richard Kettlewell wrote: >> What command(s) did you use? > The usual, > sudo apt update > sudo apt upgrade I would suggest using ‘apt-get dist-upgrade’, if upgrading manually, because: (1) ‘apt upgrade’ will currently never remove a package, even if that’s necessary to upgrade something else. (2) ‘apt’ is permitted to meaning from version to version, so any advice given about it today could be invalidated tomorrow. > It does seem that upgrades trickle in slowly, as advertised by the > "update available" icon. It seems as if there needs to be some > additional information offered on when to upgrade and/or reboot. When to upgrade: * I use https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades, which takes most of the hassle out of it. When to reboot: * /var/run/reboot-required should be nonempty if you need a reboot. * https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/needrestart should help with reboot notifications. * unattended-upgrades mentions any need to reboot in its email notifications. -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/