Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: zen cycle Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: People Without Meaningful Lives Seek Power Over Others Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 06:19:24 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <3lpucjd7h8urb0ejq3j8bh636n33t29q0u@4ax.com> <5qlvcjp589a1mth1ng27q3bo1gp3hmg96r@4ax.com> <8g90dj15dj6h6655564vvi3loe9ehrluit@4ax.com> <5ZfjP.880262$DPl.350989@fx13.iad> <8i0tojhsm16las4q3juu9ik6nqslv2gkk9@4ax.com> <4VBjP.76376$ZEZf.46822@fx40.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 12:19:25 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="68ce6ecfd1e960898b3578f4f64bc4fe"; logging-data="1028443"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19MMrclgex6px5G428SuQ7m244JZ8I36AI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:UPvKEf8L1jsDzGhLHaO45BN339o= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2908 On 1/20/2025 9:09 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: > On 1/20/2025 7:30 PM, cyclintom wrote: >> On Mon Jan 20 13:17:00 2025 Frank Krygowski  wrote: >>> >>> There's a little history on the "Talk" page regarding desmodromic >>> valves. Here's that "Talk" page: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ >>> Talk:Desmodromic_valve#Disputed_section:_Disadvantages >>> >>> I don't see enough to make a confident judgment. >> >> Jobst knew an awful lot about desmodromic valves which I suppose he >> got acquainted with at Porche trying to eliminate valve float. If you >> got him talking on the subject you couldn't shut him off. He believed >> they were the cure for everything, > > I think you have that backwards. I suppose I could be wrong. Andrew can > probably clarify. > Considering he wrote "Desmodromic valve motion is an anachronism that with diligence can be made to work but at significant cost and design effort. " "As analytic methods came into use, valve adjustment, hydraulic tappets, push rods, rocker arms and valve float became largely a thing of the past, making desmodromic valve drive a cumbersome engineering relic." and "sometimes investment in an idea causes mental blindeness." I'll submit that, as usual, tom is wrong.