Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!sewer!alphared!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: j.nobel.daggett@gmail.com (LDagget) Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: 2nd law clarifications Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 18:42:14 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="62607"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Rocksolid Light To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 24CF7229782; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 13:45:58 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1612229765 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 13:45:55 -0500 (EST) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.98) for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id 1tWK10-00000000nQn-0M5g; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 19:45:50 +0100 id 85E1759803B; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 18:45:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Injection-Info: ; posting-account="fegc7bsF1eMdQ+K4/V59MDLZ0W7qYnKpXoBXaiJNWpk"; X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$pqOuiFDShIjMGj1WdDHZFOPmQfhV.pgWqmCrIo/Je9UwurHmcslSm X-Rslight-Posting-User: e316cd0a5543fde25fc288f0018b16e943af38c6 Bytes: 2421 Lines: 12 On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 17:23:53 +0000, Ernest Major wrote: > On 10/01/2025 12:18, MarkE wrote: >> >> As I noted previously, where one draws the system boundary is critical >> in this analysis. I agree that the contribution of energy released >> during polymerization needs to be considered as well. > > If the result depends on where you draw the boundary would that not be > an indication that there's something wrong with the analysis. Yes.