Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Suspension losses Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 08:28:06 -0600 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <4419oj9p6p9ft33ad1c8p9gv1vt73ogtnp@4ax.com> <67gaojdl7qhg63omrrgnhie2pbhv1ms6eb@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 15:28:06 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="816fc0be6f02edad591cd86b771e3a1e"; logging-data="2579251"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ff39kcugdecF+D++N41X5" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Y648ZD0fqKjczhtWGf23qzwU7R8= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3617 On 1/14/2025 3:04 AM, John B. wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 21:13:57 -0800, Jeff Liebermann > wrote: > >> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:58:35 -0500, Frank Krygowski >> wrote: >> >>> On 1/13/2025 12:06 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: >>>> You, as a person, don't need or consume heat. Somewhat simplified, you >>>> need a certain range of temperatures. In the ideal case, you don't need >>>> any additional energy, because your body already produces heat. A little >>>> bit of isolation, perhaps provided by that very blanket, might be >>>> sufficient. >>> >>> And, I suppose, we could do away with all home heating, and just wear >>> very heavy clothing all winter. But I don't know of anyone doing that. >> >> I'm currently doing something similar to save firewood, which costs >> about $500/cord delivered. My bed has multiple layers of blanket and >> a goose feather duvet. During the day at home, I wear a padded jacket >> and fleece lined pants. I'm constantly moving around so I tend to >> warm myself. I usually wear a wool hat indoors to keep my head warm. >> At about sundown, the temperature drops sufficiently to require >> additional heat. The wood burner runs in the evening for about 5 hrs >> until I fall into the bed. If I have guests during the day, I start a >> fire in the wood burner. The reason this works for me is that the >> temperatures are quite mild during most of the winter. >> >> > > > I don't know whether you know this but when using a stove to heat a > room put the stove in the opposite side of the room from the chimney. > Then run the stovepipe from the stove straight up from the stove to > the ceiling and then along the ceiling, using mounts to separate the > stove pipe and ceiling, of course, across the room to the chimney. > > That way you get more heat from the same amount of wood. > > And more flue to clean. Which is more important than it may at first seem. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971