Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 17:57:40 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <494bfd3b-3c70-4d8d-9c70-ce917c15fc22@att.net> <72142d82-0d71-460a-a1be-cadadf78c048@att.net> <812e64b1-c85c-48ac-a58c-e8955bc02f8c@att.net> <22b74adc-bf38-4aa4-a44f-622f0a2a5c41@att.net> <77a1069f5c5b8f95927ed9a33ecc6374c9d0a2dd@i2pn2.org> <20e517f6-d709-46fd-83f8-04c6b4fe9f59@tha.de> <4679319ea238a03fb042ae0c4de078c1a310c8a5@i2pn2.org> <21586c471d7da511d9a2bc75fb13ee29f30e4e66@i2pn2.org> <4db90e7b18a6b0eb12e2a52440b72981cfe5bd7e@i2pn2.org> <3fb45d17296a2480803d9ae57605b57028f7f697@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 17:57:40 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1416981"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2569 Lines: 16 Am Sun, 26 Jan 2025 09:35:27 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 25.01.2025 14:09, joes wrote: >> Am Sat, 25 Jan 2025 12:14:18 +0100 schrieb WM: > >>> ∀n ∈ ℕ_def: |ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ..., n}| = ℵo. >>> To have infinitely many would require to use also the ℵo successors. >> Why don't you use them? > They are outside of FISONs F(n) = {1, 2, 3, ..., n}. Mais non, there are Aleph_0 FISONs! > Note the universal quantifier in ∀n ∈ UF(n): |ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ..., n}| = > ℵo Yeah, what about it? It’s not inside the set to be subtracted. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.