Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 15:10:50 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <494bfd3b-3c70-4d8d-9c70-ce917c15fc22@att.net> <72142d82-0d71-460a-a1be-cadadf78c048@att.net> <812e64b1-c85c-48ac-a58c-e8955bc02f8c@att.net> <22b74adc-bf38-4aa4-a44f-622f0a2a5c41@att.net> <77a1069f5c5b8f95927ed9a33ecc6374c9d0a2dd@i2pn2.org> <20e517f6-d709-46fd-83f8-04c6b4fe9f59@tha.de> <4679319ea238a03fb042ae0c4de078c1a310c8a5@i2pn2.org> <21586c471d7da511d9a2bc75fb13ee29f30e4e66@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 15:10:50 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="148837"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3009 Lines: 25 Am Sun, 19 Jan 2025 11:47:50 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 18.01.2025 14:46, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 1/17/25 4:56 PM, WM wrote: > >>>> That "definition" violates to definition that set don't change. >>> So it is. But if infinity is potential, then we cannot change this in >>> order to keep set theory, but then set theory is wrong. >> So, you are just agreeing that your logic is based on contradictory >> premsises and thus is itself contradictory and worthless. Yes, with mutable sets. > No, set theory claims actual infinity but in fact useses potential > infinity with its "bijections". "Set theory" uses neither. > They contain only natnumbers which have ℵ₀ successors. There are no naturals with a finite number of successors, otherwise you could count backwards from the end. > If all natural numbers were applied, there would not be > successors: ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ...} = { }. There are no successors if only you would actually "apply" the infinitely many naturals. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.