Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!ereborbbs.duckdns.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 17:59:40 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <0d6d06a888e15ed2042aca8ec7e6ebb93590b7bc@i2pn2.org> <8a2aedd8383a84ceef2fd985ac0bf529e2a0eccf@i2pn2.org> <3fe6ef31f562e0ddf598de46cf864986ca909687@i2pn2.org> <9cb8aec671200bb6d71582fd607b876b7ec4c83a@i2pn2.org> <40292abc147fee5a7bdd264b69d34ddf2061e59d@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 17:59:41 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f58a176fb9f5fe3c9e31e663ae4a5fe8"; logging-data="3719453"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18DTabmmNMeyMzki3dKRS0dZ6vvFJ539GQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:89K2tNavNZp0O2WHrQpiCexlcSo= In-Reply-To: <40292abc147fee5a7bdd264b69d34ddf2061e59d@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2756 On 26.11.2024 16:06, Richard Damon wrote: > On 11/26/24 6:24 AM, WM wrote: >> On 26.11.2024 12:15, FromTheRafters wrote: >>> WM pretended : >> >>>> It is impossible to change |ℕ| by 1 or more. >>> >>> Right, sets don't change. The set {2,3,4,...} does not equal the set >>> of natural numbers, but |{2,3,4,...}| does equal |N|. >>> >> Then your |N| is an imprecise measure. My |N| is precise. >> |{2,3,4,...}| = |N| - 1 =/= |N| . > Then your measure is incorrect, as by the DEFINITION of measures of > infinite sets, all countably infinite sets have the same "measure". That is one special definition of a very imprecise measure. We can do better. Regards, WM