Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 12:53:22 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <850d8d685e2c661923cc7bf8bfad7bfd0f6deb86@i2pn2.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 12:53:22 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="300144"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3765 Lines: 63 Am Sat, 15 Feb 2025 21:16:30 -0600 schrieb olcott: > On 2/15/2025 2:49 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2025-02-14 12:40:04 +0000, olcott said: >>> On 2/14/2025 2:58 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2025-02-14 00:07:23 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> On 2/13/2025 3:20 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-02-13 04:21:34 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>> On 2/12/2025 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2025-02-11 14:41:38 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Of course not. However, the fact that no reference to that >>>>>>>>>> article before or when HHH >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That paper and its code are the only thing that I have been >>>>>>>>> talking about in this forum for several years. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Doesn't matter when you don't say that you are talking about that >>>>>>>> paper. >>>>>>>> Anyway, that is irrelevant to the fact that the subject line >>>>>>>> contains a false claim. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is a truism and not one person on the face of the Earth can >>>>>>> possibly show otherwise. >>>>>> >>>>>> The fact that the claim on subject line is false is not a truism. >>>>>> In order to determine the claim is false one needs some knowledge >>>>>> that is not obvious. >>>>> >>>>> When you try to show the steps attempting to show that it is false I >>>>> will point out the error. >>>> >>>> Step 1: Find people who know C. >>>> Step 2: Show them DD of OP and ask. >>>> >>>>> This is the only topic that I will discuss and any >>> >>> typedef void (*ptr)(); >>> int HHH(ptr P); >>> int DD() >>> { >>>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >>>    if (Halt_Status) >>>      HERE: goto HERE; >>>    return Halt_Status; >>> } >>> int main() >>> { >>>    HHH(DD); >>> } >>> >>> DD  correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally. >> >> That claim has already shown to be false. Nothing above shows that HHH >> does not return 0. If it does DD also returns 0. >> > When we know that DD is simulated by HHH we know that HHH cannot > possibly return to this DD as long as we have at least a little > competence in the C language. If we also had a little competence in theory, we would know that HHH is not a decider if it doesn’t return. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.