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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Brown Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: We have a new standard! Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 14:51:17 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 14:51:18 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="42c2d5751f7fc0d51435db29cafdf071"; logging-data="1062030"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19MTKQddvGRkM3LrtTQTBJtic6hGWbce5s=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:t8uneVPnY5wcx4/OzBvZHtoojWs= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3240 On 29/12/2024 10:32, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote: > On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 16:20:57 +0100 > David Brown gabbled: >> On 28/12/2024 11:19, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote: >>> Being serious, I haven't even checked whats new in it but going by >>> C++ 2020 >>> it'll be yet more syntactic soup to support features absolutely no >>> one outside >>> of ivory tower academic discussions asked for. It'll just add yet >>> morecomplexity to compilers, hence more potential bugs and make the >>> C++ learning >>> curve even steeper meaning yet more new programmers abandon it - or >>> don't >>> even start - for languages such as Python. >>> >> >> Ah, yes - the classic well-reasoned argument.  Why would one ever want >> to /look/ at the new standard before condemning it? > > Ah yes, the same logic that has produced cars with ever more, harder to use > complexity that no one wants. No, not remotely. But then, you knew that before making what you mistakenly thought was a smart or witty reply. If you don't like the complexity of newer C++ standards, that's fine. If you don't think it is a good direction for the language, fair enough. You can choose a different language, or stick to an older standard, or make your own language, or get involved in the C++ standardisation processes and try to influence them. You can have an informed opinion about C++, and agree or disagree with the opinions of the committee members. But what you don't get to do - or at least, don't get to do if you want to be viewed seriously - is spout an /uninformed/ opinion. That's no more than mindless prejudice, and of no interest to anyone. So go away, and read about C++23. Learn what is new or changed. /Then/ you can come back and tell us what you don't like about it - or perhaps you'll find some things that you /do/ like about it. Either way, you'll be at least vaguely qualified to express an opinion on it.