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On 3/2/25 16:14, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
>>>>> a chance to solve this.
>>>>
>>>> But why should I take your word for any of this?
>>>>
>>>> Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
>>>
>>> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
>>> as it may not seem.
>>
>> No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and we've
>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
>> Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace
>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
> 
> 
> You're wanting World War III to happen, then?  Because that's what
> you're implying with that logic.

No, not saying that I "want" that.  I'm merely noting that when you're 
doomed to die anyway, nuking the other SOB takes them down with you.

If that starts a larger exchange (or not) is no longer relevant to you 
because you're already dead:  its the principle of MAD as a deterrent, 
and my observation is that MAD only works when both sides have nukes.

So if you really want peace, solution is give Ukraine back their nukes.


-hh