Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: Rabbinical blame shifting, blaming 'moshiach' ... Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 17:04:59 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 201 Message-ID: References: Injection-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:05:00 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="83a52d950509d28c706135a2ffcdddeb"; logging-data="731213"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18C2BB5HaZE1C9DVI8FZ2Ss" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+EdAd+d/VIzSdg43/BXeHAXyFcM= Bytes: 12895 link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kITZOnUWA-Y title: Yemot Hamashiach (16) - Does Mashiach Know he is Mashiach? - Rav Shlomo Katz source: Shlomo Katz Reply ... Rabbinical Judaism is wrong. There won't be a Redemption possible until you stop following Hillel and Rambam, for obvious reasons. There are two reasons for it basically: one is the dishonesty as a character quality which makes Redemption impossible, and the other is the consequences of the phony laws you made up, which will also ruin any Redemption under those phony laws. You have destroyed yourselves, and you keep yourself into sleep, if you want to put it that way. Whether moshiach is sleeping or not, is irrelevant and not your problem, is it. Are you trying to put blame on moshiach, for your own betrayals of the Torah, and how you have kept the exile going ? It looks that way, doesn't it. Why are you suggesting 'moshiach' is sleeping, why do you put this idea out, following the Rambam with his phony inventions suggesting 'moshiach' is tarrying (there is no source for that, it's a lie, the Tanach says the opposite). * End reply. This one does not (yet) seem to be deleted by Google. I tried watching 10 minutes of the video, but it is hard no concentrate on videos from people who you know are this dishonest and disingeneous about essential topics, such as "The Rabbis of Israel". What a lost people. I think more and more about staying a long way away from them, and to make true on this idea that I will ignore them for as long as they have ignored me calling them out on their lies, which was since 2008. This would mean if they start asking me to explain it to them again or whatever, that I would say something like: excellent idea, first I will let you wait for as long as you made me wait. How long is that going to be ... 2008 minus 2025 is 17 years at this point. You can contact me again in 17 years, bye. I'll show them how sad and what kind of a looser behavior they have with their hard neck. Not that they may want to ask me anything of course, but let's say that they do want to do that for some reason. I'll just let them take their own obstinacy in the face. Measure for measure as they call it. Thank goodness sakes I'm not Jewish or anywhere near Eretz Yisroel. It would be so painful to be even more confronted with these lying Rabbis and their mindless following. I hope I will never have to go to their land, but it is good for the world if they finally stop lying and give the example. I'll aplaud them for it from afar, and keep my distance from this lying mess that they are. Unfortunately, it doesn't cut it if they get hammered like never before, and a mere half million survive, because if that's the pressure you need to stop being liars, then how serious can you be taken even after that ? Then again, I'm also human and also can have the same problem, which is why I knew or thought I had to suffer to keep the focus. This way also, everything is kind of perfect, because they will have to do everything themselves and I won't even give them any help whatsoever, if they decide they should do the program in the signature. That way, the danger of idolatry is also reduced, and if they fail, well deserved. It is well deserved that this mess that they are fails. They caused it for themselves, and can suffer the fitting consequences. Not that the other Nations are any better, on the contrary, that's still 10 times more hopeless than Israel even in its current state. They will always be these people who have been given the Torah, and all these bizarre lies of the western idolators about it are just that, more lies. It's the people with the big noses (I guess) and their little hats, and they have Synagogues and Shulls all over the western world. It is the Jewish people, in the conventional sense. None other. Not Africans, not Europeans either, not weird cults either. Despite everything, it is those people, with their Rabbis and their Tanach and also with their Rambam and Hillel which is their betrayal of Moshe Rabbeinu and the Creator - except the Karaim, who may be the best of them, but quite small (most live in Egypt). Those are also Jewish. The rest is not Jewish, and then there are many who are mixed, and there are also Jewish people who switched to the western idol, which is really sad for them I guess, and it shows how mindless and disinterested in reality they can get. They spoke Yiddish, and Hebrew nowadays again, and have been accused by some of being Khazars or whatever, which I do not believe is true. These people, despite evertyhing, are supposed to make the Redemption happen, either freely or forced by heaven. It's them and them alone. They will do it, or ... I guess, they will do it. The word is, they do not have a choice (say the autists), or to put it differently: those who already chose the good at Sinaii, will not be allowed to rescind on their choice, also for their own benefit. They will not be allowed to ruin themselves in the end, even if they currently seem to want to do just that - well, because that's what they are doing. The word is also, that they will suffer very badly, for their own benefit in the end. Apparently also, many of them will not make it, and they will be lost. This is the scheme of things. I do not believe whatsoever that this will ever change. It will not be the Mulems doing it, and it will also not be the western idolators or others doing it; that is to say, to rebuild a Nation of Justice around Yerushalayim, with a truth and a culture which is the Torah or exceedingly close to the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu (who .... is such a great hero ... there is no words for that). I thought I make it very explicit what I think about this, because we have seen the craziness that has happened in the past and all the crazy claims that happen. Perhaps I should also add, that while I make up these angry ideas of not even talking back, when I saw the Rabbi in the video I just thought, why don't you come over for a cup of tea and we can discuss some Torah face to face if you like. Like friends I mean. lol It's hard to not be upset, but it is also hard to stay upset when there is a chance and a hope. Oy oy oy Israel ... oy oy oy oy oy ... what an obstinacy. Have you looked into the mirror lately. On and on you g owith these obvious and blatant lies, and you do it without seemingly a shred of shame. No worse, you are proud of it. I cannot believe I am seeing adults, people who clearly are older than 10 or 15, and they just keep peddling their Rambam and Hillel with a straight face. I cannot believe it, what a planet of insanity, what a species of mindlessness this humanity is. I'm not even half smart, and I can see it completely clearly, and so can you. You can see this perfectly fine. You don't have to lie about it, because it is just that obvious. You don't *want* to have a basic honesty. You do not want to be at the most simple level an honest person. That is the only conclusion I can draw, and that is very bad for you if that is true (which it seems to be true), so that if you think you can survive into the Redemption and that heaven will be okay with you being so dishonest, that's just redicilous if you think this can be accepted. You're just animals at that point, mindless and without any capability to form understanding on even the simple things in life. Then you think that heaven is going to give you the power of life on Earth, where humanity is a high technological species and the only one. You are insane if you can think that, lost. A basic honesty you are against, you support criminal activity and you want to be a thieve and a liar and live in a Nation who is into that kind of a life, and then you think that the God of the Torah - whom you know hates thieves - will give you eternal life. You are insane at that point, lost and insane and mindless. This leads me to think that you are of the same bend as the western idolators. It's a betting game for you. You live however you think is right without putting much or any thought to it, and when it breaks the Torah you just think: maybe it's fine and we will win anyway, let's see where it ends up first. You already saw where it ends up: in the exile, and all the pogroms, and the Nazi holocaust, but still you keep pushing it; let's see where the mess that we wanted to be will end up, will be be pushed even harder or will we suddenly be accepted. Will be be pushed into extinction or will our crimes become accepted as good soon. Maybe our crimes will be accepted as good, and then we would have done Teshuvah for no reason, what a bore ! Then let's rage on to the end and see if we end up dead or alive, and then we wlil decide if the ruth is worthwhile. You see where this will end up ? You don't make any decisions anymore when you are dead, or at least not as a human being on Earth. Once youe are wiped out or cast out as a traitor and a liar and a thieve and a mindless fool who cannot be relied upon, once that is thoroughly proven and you get the message that you will be out forever, only *then* you will think of changing into basic simple honesty ? Isn't that richly too late ? I guess I'm too simple for all these mindless designs which you are into, Israel, which you probably aren't even thinking about and I am merely overthinking it. I try to see reasons, where there are no reasons. There is just this with Israel: the great void of mindlessness. The great void of obstinacy and a hard neck. Point. Nothing to it. No logic, no goal, no design. Just this: the void of an empty mind, the mind of a fool. You want to be dishonest ? Not even that. You want to be honest but you fail ? Not even that. Just this: nothing. Mindlessness. No decision to one end, and no decision to the other either, because the question didn't even occur to you, that's how mindless and lost you are as a people. How can you have a 'Rebbe' and he doesn't fight tooth and nail against Hillel and Rambam, how can you ?! The lies of Hillel and Rambam are blatant and obvious. What a lost people, what a dishonesty, what an obstinacy, and what a bore really (just like me, I'm also turning into an old bore and an old sore, going over the same over and over forever). I seriously start thinking that even if Israel turned to the truth right today, it is too late for it to be accepted anymore. Their crimes and obstinacy are too great and will have to have their consequences. They can do Teshuvah if they want, under conditions of being destroyed. They let it come to this. I told them well in advance, many years ago, what they where lying about (as if they didn't know), but they ignored it. You let it come to this Israel. But ... everything is fine, the pizza is coming out of the oven just fine ? Even common people start to understand things are going wrong now, and how about you ? What is supposed to be the medicine against this basic dishonesty of Israel as a people ? I can only see an answer ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========