Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: Israel & her Rabbis: religious nutcases. Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:14:41 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 498 Message-ID: Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 12:14:42 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dd5bdd8dcc78ecf9cee5eeedb98a78c8"; logging-data="3831107"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1++A4RYqA2dOYGvcV3VlPog" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pFO90aUrv3hKJQqp7PWuHhK1YTM= Bytes: 30579 title: Is Moshiach a Vengeful Warrior or Peacemaker? | Classic Take S2: 32 source: Tut Altz link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ulPu_UBkT0 Reply ... Question: What is the pain & suffering necessary to not only get the Jewish people to stop listening to Rabbinical Judaism with its Hillel and Rambam, but to make certain they will _never again in all eternity_ listen to the Rabbis. This is the amount of suffering you are now creating, and which you are facing as a people. A clue to the amount of suffering which will be attempted next is in the Torah: 7 times worse. The last time was the Nazis. While there is no guarantee that Israel will finally overthrow the Rabbis after this, it looks like the system is set up along the lines of opportunities and choices. When you are destroyed as a people, it is not only a catastrophe, but it apparently is an opportunity for you as a people to stop listening to these Rabbis. Hence I guess we cannot really define the amount of suffering necessary to remove Rabbinical Judaism _forever,_ because it is more along the lines of heaven creating opportunities to overthrow them, such as the Nazi holocaust and the current exile, and then the final step needs to be taken by Israel by choice. If this choice never comes, then Rabbinical Judaism will still be overthrown in the end, by way of Israel no longer existing as a people. Then they would have hardened their neck to the point of their own extinction, or so few of them would be left they cannot be called a people anymore. How does it make you feel you are creating this kind of hell for your people ? That's a rethorical question of course, because you feel nothing, because you simply deny the reality you are creating with your Rabbinical Judaism. You simply deny reality, and then you feel whatever you want to feel about it, to make yourself happy in the moment. The mindlessness of humanity and Israel as well, is shocking, and I think it means this species certainly in its current form, cannot exist and will not exist. This mess belongs in the Stone Age, where the harm they do is at least limited by their lesser capabilities. Remember you read this, so that when it happens you know it was your own free choice to create the disasters which you are likely to be suffering from. It was your own free choice to rebel against the Torah to the bitter end, with the rest of the Rabbis and your mindless following. Religious nutcases is what you all are, mindless and with a cult attitude. A lost people, now put on the slaughtering block of history, having reach a point in history where this kind of madness can no longer be sustained but it has to be dealt with - probably by putting this mindless and evil species back in the Stone Age, which is a state of mind they have for the most part refused to leave. If you don't want to get your minds and hearts out of your hunter-gatherer Stone Age animalistic state, then that is the choice you make about the future you want. Reality will eventually adjust to that, and you can live up all this greed and violence which you apparently love so much. Heaven will then be doing nothing more, than providing this species with the wishes it has. It can look at this species, especially when the suffering becomes bad, see "aha these creatures want to be violent and mean to each other, they want to rage with greed and fight, then we will give them a world in which they can freely explore those choices". It will then be a simple process of wiping out most people in a series of catastrophes, until a small remainder of primitives groups living like Neantherthales remain, and that will then be your future for say the next 100 000 years. You think it won't happen ? If you go on with Hillel and Rambam and the rest of humanity behind you, there is no other good choice, because what you are creating is like a high technological hell world, which is likely going to be much worse than the Stone Age. It is animal violence with high technology, which are also levels of technology we are now just getting into, such as DNA manipulation on the small scale, to Country destroying weapon systems on the other hand on the large scale, and every manner of hell evil humans can think off in between. You think the criminals don't have all the money, or the will to do it ? They are already doing it, and have always tried to do it. Heaven will then convict you to your own choices, which is both horrific, and absolutely beautiful, isn't it. Just like you have been given the exile you created with your Hillel and Rambam. You want that exile, because you want to follow Hillel and Rambam, and there you are, you are living it, exactly as promised, with all the death and misery you apparently where craving for. You wanted it, because your actions where clear: you are against the Torah and also against HKB'H, and then heaven gave you what you wanted. Now the bombs are getting very big, so I guess all choices humans make are going to be coming true to a greater extend, because technology allows more to be achieved in whatever direction it is deployed. Humans like deploying technology according to their will of course, which is both toward luxury but also toward violence. Both ends will be strengthened, and in the end, the species can probably not survive that which it is creating, because humans are too evil and mindless to survive their own choices. Once you accept Rambam Shemita 10:8 or the prozbul, it is all over for you as a people. You are enemies of the Torah from then on, and you have remained enemies of heaven since then. I think the only reason you are still alive, is because the gentiles are even so much worse than you, but that doesn't mean you are good enough yourselves to live either. It's the best of the worst, but in the end, it all goes into destruction, almost nothing seems capable of existing. But who am I talking to, right ? Religious people are known for their mindlessness and illogical irrational attitudes, and absolutely closed minded dogmatism and cult behaviors. Not a chance in hell these people will care for the truth or a logical argument. That being so, there is only one way forward then: suffering. If the suffering doesn't help, then extinction can eventually also stop the suffering, and then everything will be good again. The creation is eventually perfect, even when Israel is not. * End reply. Continuing on Usenet: the comment was apparently deleted, potentially due to some language filter since I was a bit rude in it. I guess I should not be rude, but it is hard no not be upset with the lying Rabbis and their mindless following, and the hell they are creating in the end. I think at this point, I regret having had the will to help. People truly are incomprehensibly ... whatever. They just don't want to be good or even half decent, they just want to be violent and dumb to the bitter end. They don't want to listen with a minimum of care to the other side in for example something like a war, or contemplate the cost of the war compared to ... .... but who am I writing this even for ? We have Governments, seemingly staffed by adults (you would think, 3 year old toddlers with nobody around to change them) who have organized the State debt, a roll over debt insanity. That is potentially already enough to give up, never mind all the great issues of the right to land and so many other issues. The only thing humans seem to excell at, is tinkering with technology and making it more & more powerful. They can be quite hard working and crafty. They can also suddenly be genius when it comes to avoiding taxes, or at least some of them. On the whole, there is a lot of great stuff and nice people, but this "a lot" is just not enough against the destructive and selfish elements. Humanity as a whole: generates a large amount of suffering, and almost no to very small amounts of happiness, is my personal subjective opinions. The lives of these creatures is mostly suffering, a lot of it is more or less neutral, and there is almost no real happiness. On the whole I think the species is a negative to existing (including my own wretched life, if I may say so). On the whole, this species is not adding anything worthwhile to existence, at least at the moment. As it stands, happiness would likely be greater if this species where to go extinct. The only reason this mess is still existing then, is the chance & hope that eventually all the negative can still be turned around. This requires a significant change in the behavior of humans. Personally I often think of the problem as that of horse breeding or any other animal or plant cultivation. You constantly choose the best ones, while letting them all do whatever they want. If humanity is a cultivation process, the best ones are stimulated and made to survive, the bad ones should die out. You could also see it as a cultivation *attempt*, where ti is not even certain even any one of these creatures will become good, but an attempt is made anyway. After then a process of attempting leads to nothing, eventually the point may come to give up on it all and just extinct the entire species. If one or a few specimen will still be good enough, then more or less the entire process was succesful, and only they can then be made to survive and the rest gets destroyed (only heaven can do that, of course; if humans where to attempt this, it would almost certainly only be more hell and evil as usual). Rabbinical Judaism belongs to the class of crime and failure, so this can obviously not survive in the end. It can only survive if it wants to restructure itself to the necessary degree, however it clearly refuses up to this point. To have a Nation which is functioning, you need a necessary combination of mind & heart. IF the heart is good but the mind is lost, you could still have perhaps a Stone Age tribe or something, although this kind of life should also not be underestimated in its difficulty. If the mind is working well but the heart is evil (heart, I mean soul), then there is probably no hope. Perhaps within all these issues is then the answer to what the future for the Nation of Israel will be: - It will be much smaller, even a shadow of itself. All who refused to be good may be destroyed, and at a 7 times worse death rate than the Nazis to shock the people into overthrowing Rabbinical Judaism finally, it may be that 95% to 99% is dead (7 times the Nazi death rate). - It will be technologically primitive, because of the mindlessness of the people not being able to handle anything too complicated or powerful. - It may be technologically primitive, because of the remaining evil in the hearts of the jewish people, making it dangerous to give this species too much technological power. Perhaps you can even make some sort of formula for it: ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========