Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dave Froble Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: Local Versus Global Command Options Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 00:53:37 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 55 Message-ID: References: <67afe79c$0$719$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <67b54873$0$709$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <67b647c3$0$712$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 06:53:42 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6df7d377ee2fe2beddc67e19933f2078"; logging-data="4033581"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18MlM1bTitYhMFhkqbBLpfyTz94/ESeDys=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:ig15rWq1OCJ1LGb6Dez5eAMdLys= In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3405 On 2/21/2025 11:15 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > On 2/21/2025 10:09 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 19:45:05 -0500, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>> It is possible to start a process without CLI (sys$creprc or run process >>> - with an image that is not loginout.exe). >>> >>> In that case I don't think there are a concept of arguments. >>> I don't see a way to pass arguments. Arguments are something CLI provide >>> to image, so no CLI means no arguments. >> >> Mr Berryman, further up this thread, was so insistent that I was talking >> through my hat. Remember he said: >> >> ] Wrong again. There are a number of ways to invoke a program without >> ] going through DCL. >> >> and furthermore >> >> ] You apparently know as little about VMS as you do programming in >> ] general. >> >> as well as >> >> ] Everyone else: Yes, I've once again been forced to face the fact >> ] that you can't fix stupid. >> >> He couldn’t have made a mistake, could he? > > I don't see any indication of that. > > There are some ways to start a process with a DCL command > (and therefore DCL mapped). > > There are some ways to start a process without specifying a DCL > command and still getting a process with DCL mapped. > > There are some ways to start a process without DCL mapped. > > Arne > > > Now I'm confused. Were we discussing starting an image in an existing process, or starting a new process? VMS has the capability of writing and reading to/from some process memory that is independent of any images. -- David Froble Tel: 724-529-0450 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc. E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc. 170 Grimplin Road Vanderbilt, PA 15486