Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 07:49:27 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <78103fcc08b60687e9f0939fbc4730742fad495d@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 12:49:27 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2343039"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 4838 Lines: 73 On 2/28/25 8:56 PM, olcott wrote: > On 2/28/2025 8:30 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 2/27/25 11:20 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 2/27/2025 7:00 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 2/27/25 2:06 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 2/27/2025 3:36 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>> Op 27.feb.2025 om 05:40 schreef olcott: >>>>>>> On 2/26/2025 9:52 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>> Am Wed, 26 Feb 2025 08:49:42 -0600 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2025 3:48 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Op 26.feb.2025 om 05:50 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/25/2025 10:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You already know that you are stupidly wrong about the >>>>>>>>>>> emulation being >>>>>>>>>>> incorrect or you would have provided the correct emulation >>>>>>>>>>> sequence >>>>>>>>>>> long ago. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What are the first 15 lines of DD correctly emulated by HHH? >>>>>>>>>> The error in the simulation occurs already at the 5th >>>>>>>>>> instruction, the >>>>>>>>>> 'call 000015c3'. Instead of simulating this instruction, >>>>>>>>> What are the correct first 15 lines of DD emulated by HHH. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There can be no correct continuation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I say what the correct simulation is. >>>>>>> You say that I am wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I am wrong then a correct simulation must exist. >>>>>> >>>>>> HHH1 did a correct simulation, so, there it is. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That dishonestly dodged the original question: >>>>> What are the first 15 *lines of DD* correctly emulated by HHH? >>>>> >>>>> _DD() >>>>> [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping >>>>> [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping >>>>> [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local >>>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD >>>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD) >>>>> [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04 >>>>> [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax >>>>> [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 >>>>> [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f >>>>> [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d >>>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04] >>>>> [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp >>>>> [00002154] 5d         pop ebp >>>>> [00002155] c3         ret >>>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155] >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> PROBLEM BLOWS UP as the value of memory 000015c3 isn't specified as >>>> part >>> >>> When you are told that this address specifies an >>> x86 emulator then disagreement is incorrect. >>> >> Isw ee are told it has a x86 emulatolr, > > See this post > DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code > Yea, pointed out your errors there. Until you show where I make an error, you are just proven to be a blantant liar, that doesn't care about the truth.