Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR--- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2025 14:18:11 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: <5e786c32c2dcc88be50183203781dcb6a5d8d046@i2pn2.org> <2002d599ebdfb7cd5a023881ab2faca9801b219d@i2pn2.org> <4426787ad065bfd0939e10b937f3b8b2798d0578@i2pn2.org> <920b573567d204a5c792425b09097d79ee098fa5@i2pn2.org> <4453bc0c1141c540852ea2223a7fedefc93f564c@i2pn2.org> <27b6da57f540cd39d2918411d8c94789678e3f45@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2025 21:18:11 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="566f246a75be3c19f962b78108481d73"; logging-data="3289211"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/RaTjOjl/v/mHANAGiN3VX" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Vj4W8LdFDJRTlVBO9ILiOS61k34= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250306-6, 3/6/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <27b6da57f540cd39d2918411d8c94789678e3f45@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4516 On 3/6/2025 3:20 AM, joes wrote: > Am Wed, 05 Mar 2025 22:03:39 -0600 schrieb olcott: >> On 3/5/2025 9:57 PM, dbush wrote: >>> On 3/5/2025 10:53 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 3/5/2025 9:31 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>> On 3/5/2025 10:17 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 3/5/2025 7:10 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words, you know that what you're working on has nothing to >>>>>>> do with the halting problem, but you don't care. >>>>>> >>>>>> In other words I WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY BULLSHIT DEFLECTION. >>>>>> You have proven that you know these things pretty well SO QUIT THE >>>>>> SHIT! >>>>> You want people to accept that HHH(DD) does in fact report that >>>>> changing the code of HHH to an unconditional simulator and running >>>>> HHH(DD) will not halt. >>>>> >>>> DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own "ret" >>>> instruction and terminate normally. >>> >>> In other words, replacing the code of HHH with an unconditional >>> simulator and subsequently running HHH(DD) does not halt, which you >>> previously agreed is correct: >>> On 2/22/2025 1:02 PM, olcott wrote: >>> > On 2/22/2025 11:10 AM, dbush wrote: >>> >> On 2/22/2025 11:43 AM, olcott wrote: >>> >>> The first point is DD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly >>> >>> terminate normally by reaching its own "return" instruction. >>> >> >>> >> In other words, if the code of HHH is replaced with an >>> >> unconditional simulator then it can be shown that DD is >>> >> non-halting and therefore HHH(DD)==0 is correct. >>> >> >>> > Wow finally someone that totally gets it. >>> >>> If you disagree, explain why this is different. >>> In particular, give an example where X correctly emulated by Y is >>> different from replacing the code of Y with an unconditional simulator >>> and subsequently running Y(X). >> >> I may not have enough time left to change the subject and endlessly go >> through anything but the exact point. > You used to have enough time. > That is before the CAR T cell manufacturing process failed twice. >> The purpose of these posts is so that my posthumous reviewers will >> understand. > There won't be any. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer