Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 22:20:44 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 05:20:45 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="de9c75e0e594a6c6f2c98c0fd19b8497"; logging-data="3697451"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+0EyARPXjfWiY5UAK7g+lB" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:mTTDp3IqUZZyw+UGLxFhu0OcnYg= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250227-10, 2/27/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: Bytes: 4632 On 2/27/2025 7:00 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 2/27/25 2:06 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 2/27/2025 3:36 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>> Op 27.feb.2025 om 05:40 schreef olcott: >>>> On 2/26/2025 9:52 AM, joes wrote: >>>>> Am Wed, 26 Feb 2025 08:49:42 -0600 schrieb olcott: >>>>>> On 2/26/2025 3:48 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>> Op 26.feb.2025 om 05:50 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>> On 2/25/2025 10:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> You already know that you are stupidly wrong about the emulation >>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>> incorrect or you would have provided the correct emulation sequence >>>>>>>> long ago. >>>>> >>>>>>>> What are the first 15 lines of DD correctly emulated by HHH? >>>>>>> The error in the simulation occurs already at the 5th >>>>>>> instruction, the >>>>>>> 'call 000015c3'. Instead of simulating this instruction, >>>>>> What are the correct first 15 lines of DD emulated by HHH. >>>> >>>>> There can be no correct continuation. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I say what the correct simulation is. >>>> You say that I am wrong. >>>> >>>> If I am wrong then a correct simulation must exist. >>> >>> HHH1 did a correct simulation, so, there it is. >>> >> >> That dishonestly dodged the original question: >> What are the first 15 *lines of DD* correctly emulated by HHH? >> >> _DD() >> [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping >> [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping >> [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local >> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD >> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD) >> [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04 >> [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax >> [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 >> [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f >> [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d >> [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04] >> [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp >> [00002154] 5d         pop ebp >> [00002155] c3         ret >> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155] >> >> > > PROBLEM BLOWS UP as the value of memory 000015c3 isn't specified as part When you are told that this address specifies an x86 emulator then disagreement is incorrect. 100 let x = 5 If you say that you don't believe that x = 5 then you are wrong. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer