Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 03:07:26 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 74 Message-ID: References: <662nrjdfankavfplgh7am434t3u352m747@4ax.com> <6v2nrjdhjnis3psamdrll6t9sfl3bi8c6d@4ax.com> <_S_uP.306587$%5vf.244230@fx46.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 04:07:26 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5ab449877438a373dc14e41a9c602da3"; logging-data="2980058"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+KtH6BhlwVZe0MbnybmB6k" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4PM2QgkA2uPFwrik1rojK/72Amk= Bytes: 5395 On 2025-02-27, pothead wrote: > On 2025-02-26, RonB wrote: >> On 2025-02-25, CrudeSausage wrote: >>> On 2025-02-25 8:34 a.m., RonB wrote: >>>> On 2025-02-24, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>>> On 2025-02-23 5:23 p.m., Adison Vohn Caterson wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-02-23, Joel wrote: >>>>>>> Adison Vohn Caterson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Linux wins because it isn't the behemoth. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I knew it was just the company. >>>>>>>> I don't like WalMart, but I will secretly shop there ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Linux supports my WiFi, made in China, edge technology as WiFi6 is >>>>>>> evolving, same maker with WiFi7 on Windows. It's a new era. >>>>>> >>>>>> This openSUSE install went well, and other than screen orientation and >>>>>> virtual keyboard, everything worked OOTB. >>>>>> My first Linux use was SUSE 10.1, bought in a box from a store. >>>>>> It was aggravating to get it running, I mostly remember having to get a >>>>>> serial port modem, would not use my internal modem (I think US Robotics). >>>>>> >>>>>> Tried Ubuntu, Fedora in between, been 5 years since I've tried again. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a computer. >>>>> >>>>> A lot of people, myself included, feel that their choice of operating >>>>> system will make a social, political or economic difference in thehttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/meet-far-left-groups-funding-anti-doge-protests-gop-offices-across-country >>>>> world. I agree with you now: it's a computer. The operating system you >>>>> use should be the one which properly supports the hardware you >>>>> purchased. For a lot of hardware, that will be Windows or MacOS. >>>>> Sometimes, Linux does a better job on that hardware, but that is rare. >>>> >>>> No, it's not "rare" at all. Linux runs faster on almost all hardware. (I >>>> can't speak for ARM Macs because I've never seen one.) >>> >>> Doing a better job is not limited to speed. A lot of people would prefer >>> that their machines recognize their hardware and make proper use of it >>> over raw speed. What's the point, for example, of having a very fast >>> machine if the trackpad doesn't work properly, the colours are off and >>> closing the lid of your laptop causes the machine to shut down? >> >> In 18 years my Linux machines HAVE all recognized the hardware. This simply >> is not an issue for me. >> >> I realize that it's (obviously) not the case with you, but I think 99% of >> your issues stem from nVidia and trying to run Windows games on Linux. >> > > I've been using Linux since 1995 and I have run into some hardware issues over the years. > > 1. A Winmodeml US Robotics I think. Could not make it work. > 2. Ancient Canon printer, winprinter I suspect. > 3. Broadcom network chips. > At some point, all were well documented in the various Linux fora. > I was kinda bleeding edge at the time. I forget about Broadcom WiFi (haven't run into one in a while). In the past I did use the "get the Windows driver and use it for Linux" workaround, but even when that did work, it was "iffy" and I would just buy an Intel WiFi card used on eBay. By the time I was using Linux regularly modems were mostly a thing of the past. (Definitely so for me.) I've had good luck with printers... but I always avoided winprinters and winmodems. I didn't like the idea of being limited (and this was when I mostly used Windows, but I also was still using my Sinclair QL). -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien