Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Physfitfreak Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics Subject: Re: Another new PC for me! Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:50:12 -0600 Organization: Modern Human Message-ID: References: <9fusrj5r2ns0g1j5n54bsnaoqqk1pv9iv5@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 17:50:12 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="913375"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:2PnIjR62b3Cv8QmSTdsRaNvl4mE= X-User-ID: eJwNwgERwDAIA0BLayFQ5KSw+Jew3T8sVnR6IBz6DWVyMncP7JyJtveFRO1U0OvC2R6zdmNPTrEukbptT32FORa9 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US, fa-IR Bytes: 4760 Lines: 79 On 2/27/25 6:00 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 2/27/2025 11:35 AM, Physfitfreak wrote: >> On 2/25/25 8:32 PM, chrisv wrote: >>> Some of you may recall that I built a new Alder Lake machine in the >>> Summer of 2023, to replace my Ivy Bridge (Intel 3rd gen) quad-core i5. >>> I've now replaced my other PC, a Skylake (Intel 6th gen) quad-core >>> Xeon.  Below I compare the new components to the 2023 build, and the >>> reasons for my choices. >>> >>> CPU:  Intel Raptor Lake i5-14600k (Alder Lake i5-12400)  In 2023 a >>> Raptor Lake i5 was a $300 chip, which I felt was too much for my >>> needs.  Now it's a $200 chip, so I decided to step up, even though I >>> remain skeptical of the need for so many (6P + 8E) CPU cores.  The >>> larger L2 cache of Raptor Lake, combined with higher clock speeds, >>> gives the 14600k around 25% better performance than the 12400, and >>> that's in benchmarks that do _not_ benefit from having a zillion >>> cores.  It costs twice as much the 12400, but increases the total >>> system cost by only 10%.  And, who knows, maybe some day I will do >>> something that will utilize all the cores. >>> >>> Motherboard:  Asus TUF Gaming B760M-Plus WiFi II (MSI B760M Mag Mortar >>> WiFi)  Both are good-quality B760-based microATX boards.  The MSI >>> board has been working fine, but I thought I'd the Asus a try.  I >>> perceive it as being a bit of an upgrade over the MSI.  I have no need >>> for the extras that a Z790 board offers. >>> >>> RAM:  G Skill 48GB DDR5-6400 (G Skill 32GB DDR5-5600) I think that 32G >>> is way plenty, and will be for a long time.  But in the spirit of this >>> PC being a performance upgrade and more future-proof, I decided to >>> endow it with more RAM.  I thought about 64G, but that just seemed >>> ridiculous, for what I do.  The 48G compromise seemed kind of fun and >>> different.  The speed boost to 6400 MHz was done in the same spirit of >>> custom-built fun, and because Raptor Lake does officially support >>> faster RAM. >>> >>> SSD:  Kingston KC3000 2TB PCIe 4 M.2 (same)  Plenty good.  I see no >>> need for PCIe 5, here. >>> >>> PSU:  Seasonic Vertex 750W 80+ gold (Seasonic Focus 650W 80+ Gold) >>> Small steps up in quality and performance, for the new PC. >>> >>> CPU cooler:  Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO (Deepcool AK620) >>> Both are large dual-tower, dual fan coolers.  I might have bought the >>> Deepcool again, but they got into some kind of legal trouble and are >>> no longer available.  The reviews that I read of the Thermalright said >>> that it was one of the best air coolers available, and it's reasonably >>> priced. >>> >>> Case:  Asus Prime AP201 microATX mini-tower (same)  Has the jacks that >>> I want, where I want them, and no silly glass panel. >>> >>> GPU:  Nvidia GTX 1080Ti (GTX 1070)  Both are far from state of the >>> art, but suffice for the occasional screwing-around with older games, >>> that I do. >>> >> >> >> Cut the bullshit. What do you want to do with it? >> >> Don't tell me it is just a replacement for an absent womb's childbirth >> ability. >> >> > > Not sure what's going on with the Men can get pregnant type of thoughts. > Strange to me. A few decades back to piss off some rude Jew in sci.physics who claimed to be "objective" I asked him something like this: "How closely would you listen to someone who seriously claims the first Jew was born out of the rectum of an Arab man." Hahhahahh :) That shut that son of a bitch up about being objective. I even remember his fucking name. Waste of my nerve cells' space.