Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR--- Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 10:06:17 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <4930ca0f7d57a40bb2df42c645157863d8670407@i2pn2.org> References: <920b573567d204a5c792425b09097d79ee098fa5@i2pn2.org> <4453bc0c1141c540852ea2223a7fedefc93f564c@i2pn2.org> <27b6da57f540cd39d2918411d8c94789678e3f45@i2pn2.org> <24c66a3611456f6a6969dc132fd8a227b26cbcbd@i2pn2.org> <4dc770ab18f1a991f8797cbb97199126d7f9795c@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 10:06:17 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3558681"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3653 Lines: 41 Am Sat, 08 Mar 2025 17:47:24 -0600 schrieb olcott: > On 3/8/2025 5:12 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 3/8/25 9:37 AM, olcott wrote: >>> On 3/8/2025 3:07 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2025-03-07 15:28:38 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> On 3/7/2025 6:32 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 3/6/25 9:31 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/6/2025 6:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>> On 3/6/25 3:18 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2025 3:20 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>> DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own "ret" >>>>>>> instruction and terminate normally because DD calls HHH(DD) in >>>>>>> recursive emulation. >>>>>> No, >>>>> You could show the machine-address by machine-address correct >>>>> execution trace if i was wrong. You only dodge this because you k ow >>>>> that I am correct. One cannot show the correct trace of an incorrect program. >>>>> Using ad hominem instead of reasoning makes you look very foolish. >>>> No ad hominem above. hehe >>> Persistently falling go show the line-by-line execution trace of the >>> correct emulation that would prove that the emulation by HHH is >>> incorrect >>> BECAUSE YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT THE EXECUTION TRACE BY HHH IS CORRECT!!! >>> >> The line-by-line emulation of the equivalemt program has been posted, >> and was even posted by you. >> > HHH(DD) is not equivalent to HHH1(DD) and you know that you are lying > about this because you know that with HHH(DD) DD calls its own emulator > in recursive emulation and with HHH1(DD) DD DOES NOT CALL HHH1. Exactly, and HHH is really not simulating itself but rather DD's call to HHH1, changing DD's behaviour. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.