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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 21:48:13 -0600
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On 3/8/2025 9:45 PM, dbush wrote:
> On 3/8/2025 10:40 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 3/8/2025 9:24 PM, dbush wrote:
>>> On 3/8/2025 10:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>
>>>> *WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THIS THEN YOU KNOW YOU WERE WRONG*
>>>> Replacing the code of HHH with an unconditional simulator and 
>>>> subsequently running HHH(DD) cannot possibly reach
>>>> its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally
>>>> because DD calls HHH(DD) in recursive emulation.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And when that code is not replaced HHH does a partial simulation of a 
>>> computation that halts, as demonstrated by DD halting when executed 
>>> directly.
>>
>> That Straw-man deception looks ridiculously stupid
>> when I challenge you to provide the line-by-line
>> machine code addresses of Replacing the code of HHH with an 
>> unconditional simulator and subsequently running HHH(DD)
>   such that DD reaches its own "ret" instruction
>> and terminates normally.
>>
>> _DD()
>> [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>> [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>> [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local
>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
>> [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04
>> [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax
>> [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
>> [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f
>> [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d
>> [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04]
>> [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp
>> [00002154] 5d         pop ebp
>> [00002155] c3         ret
>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]
>>
> 
> 
> Obviously when the code of HHH is replaced with an unconditional 
> simulator then DD will not halt.  But without that replacement, HHH does 
> a partial simulation of a halting computation, as demonstrated by DD 
> halting when executed directly.

*This is all you get from me until this point is fully addressed*

*WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THIS THEN YOU KNOW YOU WERE WRONG*
DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach
its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally
because DD calls HHH(DD) in recursive emulation.


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