Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: dbush Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR--- Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 10:26:57 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2025 15:26:57 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a7cd4af0ac1547313f65cbaef3f65f1f"; logging-data="811400"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19QDJNcJvh2J2KF9CaKccAH" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:i+/teaLOHFL7tbI5yMYaljqS1gM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3828 On 3/9/2025 10:24 AM, olcott wrote: > On 3/9/2025 9:09 AM, dbush wrote: >> On 3/9/2025 10:01 AM, olcott wrote: >>> On 3/9/2025 8:49 AM, dbush wrote: >>>> On 3/8/2025 11:45 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Erasing and replacing my words with your words >>>>> is a real scumbag move. >>>> >>>> Not when you gave your official approval to do so after admitting >>>> for the record that they mean the same thing: >>>> >>> >>> (1) Replacing my quoted words with your words (as if I said >>> your words) is despicably dishonest. >> >> Not when you gave your official approval to do so, as posted >> previously that you dishonestly trimmed. >> >>> >>> (2) They do not mean that same thing you removed most >>> of the essence of my proof. >>> >> >> If they didn't mean the same thing you would have explained how.  I >> gave you multiple opportunities to do so and you refused.  You were >> warned that failing to explain would be taken as your admission that >> they were the same and you still didn't explain, therefore your >> admission that they are the same was entered into the record. >> >> I'm feeling generous, so I'll give you an opportunity to explain the >> difference now.  If you choose not to take that up, your on-the-record >> admission stands. >> > > *When we assume that HHH emulates N steps of DD then* > DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach > its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally > because DD calls HHH(DD) in recursive emulation. > > Whether or not the correct emulation of DD by HHH > is finite or infinite DD cannot possibly reach its > own "ret" instruction and terminate normally. > So again, no attempt to explain the difference. So your admission that they are the same and permission to replace them in quotes stands.