Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR--- Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 22:40:16 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2025 05:40:17 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d75665534b29fc22cfbd837ef533f60b"; logging-data="615748"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX187DowFMlCdu7rMznoyHk8C" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:nc0tKr+8c8JQYRJC2N+qo8Bku4I= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250308-6, 3/8/2025), Outbound message Bytes: 4105 On 3/8/2025 10:32 PM, dbush wrote: > On 3/8/2025 11:25 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 3/8/2025 10:16 PM, dbush wrote: >>> On 3/8/2025 11:07 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 3/8/2025 9:59 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>> On 3/8/2025 10:53 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 3/8/2025 9:49 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/8/2025 10:43 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 3/8/2025 9:35 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your copy-paste answer to multiple threads indicates you have >>>>>>>>> no real rebuttal for what others have said. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *This is all you get from me until this point is fully addressed* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words, you have no rebuttal. >>>>>> >>>>>> *This is all you get from me until this point is fully addressed* >>>>>> >>>>>> *UNTIL YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND THIS YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND* >>>>>> *THE NEXT STEP THAT ADDRESSES ALL OF THE OTHER ISSUES* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Doesn't matter, as you've already accepted that your HHH isn't a >>>>> solution to the halting problem >>>> >>>> *I never said that* >>> >>> Yes you did, by making no attempt to explain otherwise: >>> >> >> *This is all you get from me until this point is fully addressed* >> Replacing the code of HHH with an unconditional simulator and >> subsequently running HHH(DD) cannot possibly reach >> its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally >> because DD calls HHH(DD) in recursive emulation. >> > > > In other words, HHH fails to meet the requirement to be classified as a > solution to the halting problem, as you have already admitted. > You cannot possibly correctly understand the answer to that issue until after you understand the above mandatory prerequisite. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer