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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Dutch-like language [OT] Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:24:07 +0000 Organization: Poppy Records Lines: 53 Message-ID: <1r41z7v.1pnwk811v7pqjuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> References: <1r3zqks.1pae81f187shiuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <1r41fmk.crf6y01c42hhcN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <2nl0lj9mhbrk2tmtb7m7u3mb5ef1ojpsbf@4ax.com> X-Trace: individual.net GggeDi1LT4I32mqWEBaTFg5hodE2XI2QbiBLv2Xv/xjW2dgxu3 X-Orig-Path: liz Cancel-Lock: sha1:6rqttjBQKEfcY82OLAJUEADt5S8= sha256:s/EhPv50cfmezNnhzQH/pBFmoGHi3ZvywWGo6Pz5np8= User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 Bytes: 3034 legg wrote: > On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 11:41:47 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid > (Liz Tuddenham) wrote: > > >Jan Panteltje wrote: > > > >> On a sunny day (Tue, 3 Dec 2024 12:59:22 +0000) it happened > >> liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) wrote in > >> <1r3zqks.1pae81f187shiuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>: > >> > >> >Last night in the 80-metre band I heard two 'hams' talking. The vowel > >> >sounds of their voices seemed to be characteristically Dutch (an accent > >> >like the Groningen area) but the language was completely > >> >incomprehensible. I listened for several minutes but didn't hear a > >> >single word I recognised > >> > > >> >Do any of our Dutch contributors know of some dialect that is Dutch in > >> >sound but does not use the standard Dutch language? > >> > > >> >[I tried to send this to Jan by e-mail but the address I found for him > >> >on the Web just bounced.] > >> > >> There is the Frisian (Fries) language, spoken west of Groningen > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Frisian_language > >> And Gronings > >> And Drents: > > > >I have listened to the Wikipedia recordings of Fries and Gronings (there > >doesn't seem to be one of Drents). Fries doesn't seem to have the > >frequency of typically Dutch pronunciation of the G and CH sounds that i > >heard in the QSO. Gronings had those sounds but many of the words are > >just slightly eccented standard Dutch words which weren't in the QSO. > >The mystery remains, so if I hear that language again, I shall have to > >record it. > > > > > >> Have not listened to 80 meter for a long time, much local noise here. > > > >It was like that here until I put a really good (3-wire inductive) mains > >filter right against the input to the receiver and then solidly earthed > >the receiver chassis with an independent earthing system of heavy wire > >soldered to spaced earth rods, using a blowlamp. > > Boer? If you mean Afrikaans, I would probably have recognised that. -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk