Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 20:58:01 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <6f9139bb172e8ce7896740fe8695c9279db44f8d@i2pn2.org> References: <903de8e1-3538-4cfe-9f7a-6509eda47ab6@att.net> <3844edd7-0750-4418-bff6-2759817446b3@att.net> <27377646-137a-4f8f-a7bb-a75707b2da96@att.net> <4d349964-211f-42f1-936f-81c22ae54cb5@att.net> <6e0c8ab2-402a-43a5-a348-0c727eae6a2e@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 20:58:01 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1912778"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3134 Lines: 30 Am Thu, 30 Jan 2025 20:15:16 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 30.01.2025 11:41, FromTheRafters wrote: >> WM formulated the question : >>> On 29.01.2025 15:04, FromTheRafters wrote: >>>> WM explained on 1/29/2025 : >>>>> On 29.01.2025 10:38, FromTheRafters wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Omega has no immediate predecessor. >>>>> What is immediately before ω? >>>> Nothing, it is the initial member of the transfinite ordinals. just >>>> as zero is the initial member of the finite ordinals. >>> There is something before zero. >> Not in the ordinals, which is what you say the context is this time. > Not in the known ordinals. But if anything else, then name it, and how > many of these are there. There is nothing before ω. >>>>> And how long is the distance from ω to a natnumber? >>>> This makes no sense. >>> It is research. >> Is there a 'distance' metric in the ordinals? >> ============================================ >> AI Overview >> No, there is no inherent "distance" metric in ordinal numbers > Wrong. The ordinals 7 and 27 have the distance 27 - 7 = 20. Ah, you mean the difference. That can not be defined without contradictions, because k + ω = ω. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.