Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:08:16 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <412fef253b0cce7487c30301e52aa8b3ae1bdeda@i2pn2.org> References: <79920977-902d-4f59-a11c-497383221c82@att.net> <468b9c37-ba93-485c-8685-4b320e168251@att.net> <68bab5c2-50d3-43fc-be0d-51e01c5952bb@att.net> <862117d5-9944-4eaa-9bbf-040e376c27e1@att.net> <61fda474-8104-4e37-a1cc-d9fec975bdc5@att.net> <89d12ce1-5183-40f6-aa37-e4c1522fbc3e@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:08:16 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="590331"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3127 Lines: 31 Am Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:02:53 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 17.02.2025 21:36, joes wrote: >> Am Mon, 17 Feb 2025 20:40:47 +0100 schrieb WM: >>> On 16.02.2025 21:56, Jim Burns wrote: >>>> On 2/16/2025 6:18 AM, WM wrote: >>> >>>>> All elements can be omitted. >>>>> The set can be omitted. >>>> The set is not an element. >>> If every human has an end, then the human race need not have an end. >> Exactly. >>> If every human has ended, then the human race has ended. >> If. Induction doesn’t prove that. > But it is obviously true. You can’t prove that humanity dies from the fact that every human dies. > Induction, as applied by Zermelo and others, proves: If every element is > created or described by induction, then the set of all elements is > created or described by induction. No. > Further: If all elements of a set are subtracted, then the set is > subtracted. What should remain? Makes no sense. There is nothing to subtract the set from. > If every element of a set is countable, then the set is a countable set. What the fuck, absolutely not. „If every natural is finite, then there are only finitely many naturals.”? -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.