Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 13:41:41 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <4d349964-211f-42f1-936f-81c22ae54cb5@att.net> <6e0c8ab2-402a-43a5-a348-0c727eae6a2e@att.net> <87e2e677c7802c9c17df6063f340cb5857d5700b@i2pn2.org> <680d4249c9bf1504231a53732ac5096184261495@i2pn2.org> <12a38458-bfb9-4611-9072-eadbb166c0ec@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2025 13:41:41 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c18b476823b5321779f9f8668e16b24c"; logging-data="1319457"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+bTBfpxXediuvU6U5PQB1rH/mXAm4B1jg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ngZw2LTEXGT6cX8VveMZ0SQ5iI4= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2809 On 02.02.2025 19:23, Jim Burns wrote: >> F(1) can be discarded. >> If F(n) can be discarded, then F(n+1) can be discarded. >> >> Note: >> Mathematical induction is a method for proving that >> a statement P(n) is true for every natural number n >> that is, that >> the infinitely many cases P(0),P(1),P(2),P(3),... >> all hold. [Wikipedia] > > For each k ∈ ⋃{FISON}: No, for *all* k ∈ ⋃{FISON}. Peano creates the set ℕ by induction. I remove the set of FISONs by the same induction: n ==> n+1. What us the difference? > ⋃{FISON} = ⋃({FISON}\{F(k)}) > > P(k)  :⇔  ⋃{FISON}=⋃({FISON}\{F(k)}) > > For each k ∈ ⋃{FISON}:  P(k) > > Because > none in linearly.ordered {FISON} is last. None of the natural numbers is last. How can Peano create the complete set by induction? Regards, WM